Americans: Who the hell are you voting for?

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[–]worried19[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

Personally, I hate the fact that this comes down to a choice between the lesser of two evils. Trump is terrible. Biden is also terrible. Which one will be worse for women overall? I don't know that I can even bring myself to vote. I live in a Red State, so it's not like my choice matters, but I hate to be unpatriotic by sitting out a presidential election.

[–]MezozoicGaygay male 7 insightful - 8 fun7 insightful - 7 fun8 insightful - 8 fun -  (1 child)

Recently saw this meme somewhere: https://i.imgur.com/lhOhY4N.png

[–]worried19[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It would be funny if it weren't so true.

[–]SnowAssMan 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (15 children)

If voting blue in a red state is throwing away your vote then vote Green instead.

[–]worried19[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

They sound even more liberal than the Democrats.

[–]SnowAssMan 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

By a mile. The Democratic Party is conservative. On the federal level it's certainly not to the left of the conservative parties in Europe. The Green Party is left-wing.

[–]worried19[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Yeah, that probably wouldn't work for me. What's the difference between them when it comes to stuff like the Equality Act? I googled the Green Party and they sound fully on board.

[–]SnowAssMan 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

The more left a party is the better it's going to be for women's rights, but I'm afraid you're not going to find a party (at the moment, in the US) that isn't a victim of transmania. TRAs outnumber RadFems in the public-sphere & they have much louder voices & they're really in fashion right now.

Remember when gay people were in fashion in the early 2000s? Then the news kept going on & on about marriage – a single right for everyone to focus on. Then they gave gay people the right to get married & everyone celebrated the supposed liberation of gay people & the supposed greatness of the US, & then everyone forgot about gay people.

The same thing happened with civil rights & women's rights in the past. Pass one law – problem "solved", put it in the history books to show off how great the US started out & just kept getting better all the time.

I suspect something similar has got to happen with trans "rights". Everyone on American TV seemed to be focused on bathrooms. So I thought they'd get everyone frothing at the mouth about bathrooms, then pass a law to allow trans-women in women's bathrooms & then American discourse can move on to the next divisive distraction/next oppressed group.

[–]worried19[S] 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (8 children)

Eh, I don't want them to be left if they're in favor of censorship and government intrusion into people's private lives. I'm concerned about laws requiring affirmation only therapy for little kids, laws that favor the government taking children away if parents don't support them medically transitioning, women losing their legal rights to speak out, losing their jobs, losing their right to be imprisoned in a single-sex environment, etc.

[–]SnowAssMan 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Is there such a thing as a right-wing party that is good on women issues?

[–]worried19[S] 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

Nope. That's why I'm politically homeless.

[–]SnowAssMan 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Voting green is better than abstaining, because it sends a message. The numbers of people boycotting the system by writing someone in or abstaining altogether aren't recorded properly, unless they vote 3rd party

[–]Omina_SentenziosaSarcastic Ovalord 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree with you. The problem is that the next "oppressed" group might be even worse than TRAs.

Leftists have lost the capacity to think, so they might as well pick up MAPs as their next pet project of progressiveness.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Climate Change is a women's issue too.

[–]worried19[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

True. I've never paid much attention to that issue, although I suppose I should read up on it.