'People Are Going To Be Shocked': Bannon Claims Wuhan Lab Employees Have Defected, Are Working With FBI (Virus came from a lab)

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[–]hennaojichan 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I'm not challenging this article but just how easy is it for a scientist with high-level clearance to up and leave China?

[–]zyxzevn[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

For now it is all just speculation..

Funny answer: all Chinese look the same to me..

Real answer: I think they have made a passage via Hong Kong. It has a huge underground movement, and the CIA has been very active there.
So they need to get there first.

Maybe the current events are an effort to stop them?

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What they got wrong is that no one will be surprised.

[–]wuzizname 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I wouldn't be shocked. Virus hits right after impeachment failed and Trump pressed again for trade sanctions on China. There are a lot of rich americans, including politicians, who are getting richer dealing with China. FBI and all the alphabet agencies hate trump, UN hates trump, WHO hates Trump, Euro union hates trump. All it took was the WHO to say the word "pandemic" to enact lock downs protocols across the globe then blame Trump for handling it badly..... it's just too odd a coincidence that so much has happened (impeachment, plague, riots) in a single election year.

Hopefully, and I'm not very hopeful, someone inside Trump's administration has solid evidence on Biden and co or Hillary or Obama's admin and that they will produce it and push for indictments like he's been threatening to do for 3 1/2 years - but I doubt it. He tweets, he shakes his stick, but there's nothing behind it unfortunately.

[–]noice 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not entirely sure what to make of the Obamagate stuff, but that investigation might lead to something

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

I want to see hard evidence that Coco19 is a new virus.

Edit: Additionally, I want to see hard evidence that this virus can exist outside of the body.

Not evidence of antibodies, or any of that. The actual isolated virus.

/s/zyxzevn you are a very clever person, and so I know you know what I'm getting at. ;-)

[–]zyxzevn[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Research with electro-microscopes, and proper separation of the virus, which takes a long time and money, is the way to study the viruses.

iBiology has some great videos. Some viruses are very big and can be seen with a normal microscope, Most need electro-microscope. And they can be tracked with special dyes.

I think many might have developed from the inter-species communication system. A bit like cancer spreads. A lot of functions are similar to existing systems, but in a corrupt way. The virus uses the components of the cell to do its stuff. The activity can be tracked with dyes and manipulating with chemicals or gene-edits.

[–]noice 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You don't need to see the virus visually in order to learn about it. Fundamentally the test uses a chemical probe for detection, but it's also possible to e.g. sequence the genome of the virus.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It's my understanding that intercellular viruses are nanoscale.
The wavelength of most light exceeds the resolution size of the object many multiples.
The frequency of shorter wavelength light which could in principle reflect off of a surface, instead degrades the object/"virus" being observed.

It's an organic molecule, and it's too small to see.

Are you familiar with Exosome Theory?
It's much more plausible than Viral Theory IMHO.

Exosome Theory

[–]noice 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They are nanoscale, yes and too small to see without electron microscope as indicated by OP. There's some interesting things being learned about exosomes and intercellular signalling, for sure. But in my opinion there is no need to compare its validity to current understanding of viruses. A LOT of molecular biology experiments have been done in the past 60+ years with viruses, there's a mountain of evidence supporting viral theory.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

A LOT of molecular biology experiments have been done in the past 60+ years with viruses, there's a mountain of evidence supporting viral theory.

According to the Rockefeller controlled "modern medicine" industry.

It's a decades long hoax PsyOp that's been planned for the plandemic/scamdemic. They had the hospitals so full they furloughed the staff, and the nurses..

[–]noice 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Do you know any researchers? I have peers in the life science fields, who carry out experiments using viral technologies. None of their experiments would work if the basis of what we know about viruses wasn't sound.

[–]noice 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This is pretty interesting info - what do you make of this?

https://medium.com/@yurideigin/lab-made-cov2-genealogy-through-the-lens-of-gain-of-function-research-f96dd7413748

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If you hear anyone claim “we know the virus didn’t come from a lab”, don’t buy it — it may well have. Labs around the globe have been creating synthetic viruses like CoV2 for years.

They love claiming this. This is all fear porn.

They haven't been able to prove the existence of the measles "virus".

German Supreme Court Rules Measles Does Not Exist

It's a sign your on the right track when the media and "authorities" try to suppress the facts.

[–]noice 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Did you read the article or just look for something You disagreed with? You asked for evidence that this is a new virus. The article shows in wonderful detail how COVID-19 is distinct from, but similar to, a few characterized coronavirus samples. It is pretty interesting evidence that suggests it is man-made, and obviously novel.

Also about that article with the measles thing, not really sure but it looks like a mischaracterization of the trial, here's a rebuttal that seems reasonable to me: https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/39817/did-germanys-supreme-court-rule-that-the-measles-virus-didnt-exist

[–]soundsalad 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Has Koch's postulates even been met?

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It has not.

And it never will, because this is a PsyOp hoax.

[–]soundsalad 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The 66-year-old then said that defectors are cooperating with intelligence agencies in America, Europe and the UK, which have been assembling evidence to challenge the CCP claim that the pandemic originated in a wet market - not in a lab home to scientists who have come under fire for manipulating bat coronavirus to be more transmissible to humans.

The CCP didn't claim this, western media did. The CCP even debunked the wet market theory.

"Smoking Gun? Chinese Scientist Finds "Killer Coronavirus Probably Originated From A Laboratory In Wuhan" https://www.zerohedge.com/health/smoking-gun-chinese-scientist-finds-killer-coronavirus-probably-originated-laboratory-wuhan

I am starting to believe that China is working with the West behind the scenes on this psyop. Why else would we see so many people dropping dead all over the place in China, and see China spraying streets with disinfectant, but that's not happening anywhere else in the world? Seems like maybe they were exaggerating the seriousness just like the US is.

[–]soundsalad 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well it must have been an attenuated version, because this shit is weak as fuck.