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[–]JohnRaymond[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You're trying monumentally to be logical. Just as Feeneyites. Stick with Father Cekada... Because he goes by uom.

If a Methodist dies with perfect contrition, he's dying inside Catholic church. He might be surprised, but he is Catholic.

Novusordowatch haxs tradcast on this very topic. Also Father Utley

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Of course I'm being logical. Metaphysically, contradictions don't exist. So if your theology leads to contradictions, either your reasoning is wrong or your premises are wrong. I am studying pre-Vatican II theology, and the manual I am using does not promote what traditionalists say, whether R and R or sedevacantism. 98%, say, is accurate, but that 2% leads to either rejecting an ecumenical council or accepting an ecumenical council.

Syllogism:

All [who are saved] are [in the Church].

Some [who are not Catholic] are [who are saved].

Therefore some [who are not Catholic] are [in the Church].

I'll stop trying now, since to me it is clear "subsist in" is not a heresy, but you won't budge.

[–]JohnRaymond[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Try this... On this most complicated of subjects.

https://novusordowatch.org/2015/04/tradcast-004-is-here/ I said you trying hard to be logical... I didn't say you were.