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[–]lurkergirl 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

That's the kind of example I wanted to hear. I didn't know until you told me that Scandi women think their men aren't manly enough, or that Scandi men had a big online MRA culture. I also didn't know they married outsiders so much to satisfy the need for patriarchal relations. You're the first person to tell me these needs even exist. Every source I have, the internet, my friends, etc. claim the Nordic countries are absolute perfection, so I need concrete examples of facts like this to believe you over them.

[–]kt0998 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Ok. Yeah, internet is full of very idealized views about Nordic countries, not even just about gender equality but everything else too. I grew up poor there and the welfare and free healthcare/education helps a lot, but being poor white trash in Scandinavia is not that different from being poor white trash somewhere else. And gender relationships are built on the same biological basis everywhere.

[–]bbbarbican 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Scandinavian countries have the best PR in the world honestly. Their marketing strategy is very effective: look at us we are so enlightened! Don't you know we all descend from the Vikings who were super progressive (sure, Jan) and basically huge feminists and we are some sort of feminist heaven where women have a ton of power and men and women's relationships are totes equal. Oh and we have fjords too so come visit us!

[–]bbbarbican 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

to add: the Dutch pull that same sort of 'enlightened' shit Always banging on about the fact that everything is legal in their country and it's no big deal because people are chill: pot, prostitution, gay marriage. We are sooo advanced!! the Red Light district in Amsterdam is so cool you guys! Been there many times (I live close by) and while it's indeed a beautiful country, the Dutch are not as 'chill' as they claim and liberalism is their religion, not any kind of actual 'progress' (whatever that means)