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[–]Zaphod42 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

So how do I argue against those that say handing out free money will just make everyone lazy? (I personally believe it will allow most to fulfill their potential.)

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I completely agree!

I also realize many folks don't have much potential. Half of everyone is stupider than average, and most of the rest are really fucking close to average - and those who stand out only have their limited fields of expertise... and are otherwise generally average. Regardless, /s/memes/comments/4ce8/if_there_is_a_minimum_wage/ and we need more fairness.

I was fit as fuck, had my dream girl, and was an animation and live action director in Oakland then moved to Victoria and Vancouver. I missed all my friends and that life and in 2008 things were hard with the crash, etc. I got on some "anti"-depressants and within 3 months I tried to die. I lost everything, my lady, my shit, etc. got on welfare and spent 4.5 years getting worse on their poison and my blind faith in Scientism. I've been on welfare since, crawling out of that pit, slowly, not making a difference month to month, but 6 month to 6 months improvements were noticeable. I'm back to about 90% mentally but physically and financially I'm fucked. Regardless I've got ambitions again and feel productive even if all I'm doing it contributing to SaidIt, WikiSpooks, and writing my epic comeback on InfoGalactic. I don't do games and have no interest in Hollywood's poorly written propaganda anymore. I'm making nothing financially so far, but I know I'm a contributor, even if not in the way "they" want.

This is low energy but the content gets excellent: /s/Coronavirus/comments/4bxk/global_capitalism_corona_and_capitalism/

I'd like to see worker cooperatives promoted, but there's a reason the totalitarian corporatocracy keeps that solution out of the MSM.

To your query - I'd be very happy if they gave out free money with the stipulation that you form a worker coop with it. Small or large, however you want to arrange it. Imagine if everyone could start their own co-businesses? They might also need to classify the co-ops to maximize efficiency. For example, one worker might have special needs - disability, age, mental health, etc. so either the rest have to pull their weight or that person can join another coop at another level which might also aid them in whatever needs they have. In this way you might have countless of "unsuitable" workers in traditional enterprises actually contributing when they would be abandoned, not to mention feeling fulfilled.

But that's a pipe dream because their corrupt unfair system is not rigged to handle such fairness and compassion.

I just realized I didn't answer their question.

1) Ask them what they would do with extra money? Would they stop working? Or improve their lives and ambitions?

2) Ask them why they give a shit about all the "low life" scammers when it's proven that white-collar crime is PROFOUNDLY worse for all of humanity. Worry up not down. Punch up at elites, don't kick those in need. The true threat is from above. If your girlfriend lied and cheated as much at the government and media you'd kick her ass out!

3) Again, if there's a minimum wage, why isn't there a maximum wage?

4) I'm too tired to think of 4.

[–]Zaphod42 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks! That’s a lot of good points and I had to re-read to try to grasp everything. I looked at a few of your other posts and found a lot of it very ... interesting. I’ll keep reading and thanks for sharing!