SaidIt Survey: Ban /u/JasonCarswell or keep it around?

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Thanks for this, /u/ActuallyNot . I've just seen it. Excellent points. If someone constantly breaks the rules, I agree it's important to make a point of it, especially when the rest of us are required to follow the rules (I have 2 "strikes" and will be banned with the 3rd strike, merely for saying twice what Carswell has said 100s of times. Not that we should be shocked that Carswell can continue bullying. But it's worth addressing the bullying on Saidit, for many reasons. Saidit would probably grow if the bullying was checked more often, though those of us who are bullied naturally lose all interest in making a point of this, or bothering to care about Saidit's future. Months ago I defended Carswell, diogenes, Muskrat and others when they were banned, writing quite a bit to the admins and community about them. I wanted to see their approaches on Saidit, even when we didn't agree (especially because we didn't agree). But because I've been rather honest with Carswell about his issues, this is one of the reasons he obviously hates me and is on record trying to get me banned on many occasions. That's of course his problem to worry about. Would I still want him to be banned. I don't know. His bullying keeps Saidit from growing, but he's not the only person bullying. Do I want Saidit to grow? I don't know. If it did grow, would be a leading spreader of right-wing and alt right disinformation propaganda? Seems so. Moreover, is Saidit truly a "free speech" website? Is it truly "non-partisan"? Does it really address corruption, if indeed we see so much propaganda in the posts (paid for by a corrupt influencer racket funded by GOP PACs, donors and corporations). As with any community, there will be odd developments and contradictions, and if Saidit does grow, I think we'll see - by necessity - more interesting approaches to these developments (for better or worse). It can be an interesting place, minus the bullying.

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I have 2 "strikes" and will be banned with the 3rd strike, merely for saying twice what Carswell has said 100s of times.

Whoa! Really?

I thought that this place was attracting the conspiracy theory nutjobs and the 13 year old edgelords who say "nier nier ni**er cuck cuck cuck" because they weren't tolerated in most forums. I didn't know that they're actively weeding out rational voices here.

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Yes - sadly. If people complain enough about you to mods and admins, you can get a strike for "name-calling". I called someone an asshole (which I can do on Reddit), and 7 days later, after several complaints to an admin, I got a strike. (Edit: and I've been called every name in the book, on a regular basis, thoug recently enjoyed the title of 'malfunctioning meme'. For the serious hatred comments, I can select 'report' - under the comment - but I don't think this matters much, so I leave things as they are. You can read in the 'moderation log' at the bottom right when a reported comment was 'approved' to remain, or on rare occasion, 'removed'.)