Do you have kids? Do you want kids? If you don't but you do what is stopping you?

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[–]diogeneswanking 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

there are too many monkeys on the planet and there's a lot of mental illness in my family so absolutely not

[–]Canbot[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

The overpopulation claims are bullshit. Some places are over crowded, other places are deserted. The problem is not how many people, but rather how stupid the people are. Stupidity causes far more damage than numbers. "Idiocracy" is causing the world average IQ to plummet.

We can't all have good genes, but maybe we can figure out a way to increase the birth rate of intelligent people. How would you feel about using donor sperm/eggs to become a parent?

[–]diogeneswanking 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

it's not crowding that's the issue, it's unsustainable consumption, pollution, and destruction. our massive population's the direct or the indirect cause of peak oil, climate change, the sixth extinction, the islands of rubbish in the oceans, pestilence, war, death..

[–]Canbot[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Peak oil is a myth, when I did a school research report on it in 95 the scientific consensus was that we would run out of oil by 2020. Not "peak oil by 2020" literally RUN OUT OF OIL. It was bullshit then, and it is bullshit now. Same with climate change. Sure the climate is slowly changing, it always has been since the beginning of the planet. The ice sheets have been melting literally since the ice age ended, and only recently have "scientists" determined that man made co2 starting 100 years ago is somehow responsible for all the ice melting. You are being bamboozled. Your teachers lie to you. The media lies to you. The government lies to you. The "scientific consensus" is whatever the elite want you to believe.

Learn to think for yourself and question everything. Then have some kids for fucks sake.

[–]diogeneswanking 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

i know the predictions about peak oil have been a bit hysterical and technology's been improving all the time but the principle's sound. my reason for believing in it is mainly lateral. i believe that people are basically rational and greedy. dick cheney who owns a big part of halliburton pushed hard for the invasion of iraq and immediately as the americans went in halliburton began recruiting in iraq. and it's true that the earth's climate should be changing all the time but the current warming is greater and more rapid than can be accounted for by things like the current ice age ending and the usual things like that. anyway details are details but i can't see how you can argue that our current rate of consumption and pollution is sustainable

[–]Canbot[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

i can't see how you can argue that our current rate of consumption and pollution is sustainable

We literally produce more food than we can eat. We literally pay farmers NOT TO FARM. All the waste we bury in dumps didn't come from magic it came from the earth. It sat there before and it can sit there again. You need to realize that when someone takes a picture of a dump, that is a picture of a dump. You can't just let them tell you because they have this picture it means the entire world is covered in trash. The trash island in the pacific is an outright lie. It's a fucking LIE. Go find a picture of this mythical trash island, I dare you.

All of these predictions are hysterical. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE! Your teachers lie to you. The media lies to you. The government lies to you. How many lies have to get exposed for you to get a clue? What would it take to wake you up?

Less than 200 years ago it was a scientific fact that the world could never ever support more than 4 billion people because even if we farmed every inch of soil it could not sustain a larger population. It was a fucking scientifically proven fact. Then we invented artificial fertilizer. Now we not only have almost twice that population everyone is fucking dying of obesity! And still you are afraid that we can't sustain it? The fuck?!

20 years ago we were predicting an exponential population explosion. It was a scientific consensus. It was unavoidable without some kind of insane intervention like China's one child policy. Now all western countries have a birth rate that is TOO FUCKING LOW! Less than what would maintain population numbers. We are importing hundreds of thousand of people to make up for it. Japan is desperate to build robots to replace workers. None of these countries did one single thing to curb population growth. It was a scientifically proven fact that if we did nothing we would cause a population collapse. It was a lie.

Seriously, what would it take to get you to change your mind?

[–]diogeneswanking 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

o i'm quite open minded and try not to believe anything dogmatically. i'm not just talking about our ability to feed ourselves (tho that comes broadly under the depletion of non renewable fossil fuels since a lot of synthetic ammonia is derived from natural gas) but everything that comes with overconsumption. one or two problems can be solved without a need to address the basic cause of them but it's gotten to be too much. western countries aren't the whole world, the global population is still rising. and calling the pacific garbage patch and similar collections of ocean waste islands is a misnomer because they're not dense enough to be photographed by satellites so you won't get photographs of them

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No.

Not really. Have 2 nephews though.

Nothing.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I have a niece. And there are certain constraints at this point in time from keeping me from having my own. It is not a problem of my queen or that we don't agree on this. It is rather that we both want some more financial security and she first has to achieve one two things in her job in the same way as i have to get at least a BSc. in my new degree course to be able to rubber-stamp the stuff we need for our little enterprise. Then there is the "problem" to actually build a house ourselves on the ground we bought. So maybe this one will take another two or three years. Especially since i want fibre-cables more or less in the woods for internet.