Why am I expected to care about 'Black Lives' when black people dont even care about them

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[–]Yayme 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

So, it looks like you seem to be assuming that BLM is actually a grassroots organization that is fighting against police brutality. I do disagree with that assumption... but it looks like you believe it. And you're arguing against it. That's just weird to me.

Someone says "We need to stop police from killing black people" and your only response is "not until they stop killing each other." If I said "We need to end police brutality against white men" would your response be "not until they stop killing each other?"

It doesn't really seem like you care about black on black violence. It seems like you're just worried about ... well.. about the police not being able to kill black people. And that my friend, is a weird thing to worry about. I mean, even if like 50 out of 100 black men shoot each other, does that mean it's ok for the police to kill some too?

Unfortunately, abusers know to look for the vulnerable in society and prey on them. Same with the rapist priests. They knew to prey on children who came from shitty families. Would you say that until their families care about them, it's ok for priests to rape them? Probably not. Same with poor black men who might be in gangs. Even if their society doesn't care about them, it's not ok for the police to kill them.

And, when you talk about black on black violence, you have to take in to consideration the decade the CIA spent selling cheap cocaine in the hood. This is what allowed the gangs to make money, and to spread their violence across the country. They literally got their seed money from the CIA.

Which does kind of make it seem like, at least to the government, black lives don't really matter.

[–]Girlwiththeraventat 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

People aren't saying police killings dont matter until black on black killings stop. They are saying the amount of black people being killed by police is currently being blown out of proportion and if black lives do matter they wouldnt being killing each other like they do. There are no riots when an 8 year old girl was shot and killed in Atlanta. There are no riots for all the black men killed in major cities every weekend. Black lives only matter if a white person kills them. And yeah if 50 out of every 100 black men shoot each other that's a big fucking problem. Only 235 black men were killed by police in 2019 out of a population of about 43mil black. And yeah every unnecessary life lost is a tragedy, no one is arguing it isn't. Almost everyone is against police brutality. Almost everything think there should be police reform. No one thinks cops should be able to kill with impunity.

No lives matter to the government. They have been testing awful shit on their own citizens for decades.

[–]Yayme 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They are saying the amount of black people being killed by police is currently being blown out of proportion

This is where I think your opinion diverges from most everyone else. I think any amount of unjustified killing by the police should be cause for scrutiny, changes in policy such as and mandatory body cams, and murder charges against police officers, regardless of the victims race.

and if black lives do matter they wouldn't being killing each other like they do.

Honestly, that makes zero sense. Because they are the victims of violence more often, they don't deserve the protection of the law?

And maybe your issue is that BLM isn't protesting gang violence. But let's be honest here, who are they going to protest? Like are they supposed to march up and down the street with signs saying "De-fund the Crips" and "De-fund the Bloods"

[–]Girlwiththeraventat 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Well your definitely nitpicking what I said. Yes any unnecessary killings by police should be investigated. No matter white or black. But all BLM cares about is black lives. I haven't seen any riots for the mexican man killed in a no knock raid which was being executed at the wrong house anyway.

And once again most every agrees we need police reform.

My issue is really what started out being about police brutality has morphed into everyone most be ANTI racist and consider black lives above all else. Well white people anyway. I dont think BLM should even be a thing. Every life matters. Every unnecessary police killing matters. It shouldn't be a race issue.

So because the solution takes personal responsibility and actually making a difference in your own community instead of tearing it down, black people cant do it? All they can do is riot about something that probably won't even affect them? But something that will affect more of them, they stay silent on.

[–]Yayme 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think BLM, if it ever even was real, has long since been compromised.

It's funny, I'm pretty anti-transwomen shoehorning their way in to women's spaces, so I see the BLM movement as trying to further shove the trans agenda down people's throats, trying to make it about how black TRANS lives matter. You feel like it's about trying to subjugate white people (I think). I also see people who say it's a communist movement. I think probably all of that is a little true. When something gets that big, you get a lot of fringe groups that join and try to get attention on their causes, and it just turns in to a big cluster fuck.

I don't have a problem with calling out police violence though - and it sounds like you don't either.

So because the solution takes personal responsibility and actually making a difference in your own community instead of tearing it down, black people cant do it? All they can do is riot about something that probably won't even affect them? But something that will affect more of them, they stay silent on.

The life expectancy of white men actually went down recently. Like by 1/4 a year, or some small number... but it went down. From fentanyl. I don't really see a lot of white people doing marches for that. The opoiod issue has finally gotten some press, but it's taken decades. Does that mean white should be denied medical care, because white people obviously don't give a shit about their health, when so many white people are dying from fentanyl overdoses?