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[–]BravoVictor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I generally agree with everything you wrote. My point was that it wasn't the wars that gave him that initial popularity. Like you said, it was his leadership immediately after 9/11. Attacks on a country do that, especially behind a leader. They make people rally together. However the wars, and ultimately the lies and corruption that lead to them, are what again destroyed his popularity.

But like you said, it's doubtful that Gore or Kerry would have been any better.

[–]FlippyKing 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I did not say anything about his leadership on 9/12, he made a speech that was probably written while 9/11 was being plotted and an empty suit would have enjoyed the same poll numbers. He got a boost in polls from the war, as polling for support of the invasion went way up immediately after the invasion. His father pulled the same stunt and it boosted his poll numbers briefly. War's for business first, but to manipulate the polls is a nice secondary purpose. Both wars were for oil. Obama's clusterfuck in Syria was about a pipeline, one of two competing ones. They both, all really, work for the same evil entities. Reagan probably benefited in the polls from Granada, but I don't know.

I think if Gore or Kerry would have been any better, they would never have been allowed to get that close. In 00, Gore ran basically unopposed except for an empty run from Bill Bradley which was like choosing between supermarket brand vanilla extracts, or literally choosing between Princeton or Harvard (I think Gore went there. If not then Yale). Kerry, ... well look at his career since that election to see how much of a change he would have been.