He actively tried to change the ballot and vote counts, noting for example, "we just need 11000 votes, Brad." This is much more than merely asking for a recount, which is possible with a close result. He is told here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW_Bdf_jGaA - that there is a process that checks on the votes and ballots, and there is a judge that oversees this, but Trump wants this group to change the process in order to find 11000 votes. This is election interference. It's shocking, when one listens to that discussion. He should be in jail.