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xoenix[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun 7 months ago

lol, here's one.

I'd also like to know what politician who promised to "eradicate homelessness and child poverty" has ever followed through.

jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 7 months ago

Especially as they measure poverty as a relative level of income to the average so you can never eradicate it.

You make some poor people richer, the average income goes up, other families then fall into the poverty category without any real charge in their situation.

hfxB0oyAPirate Party 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 7 months ago

Here's the unsurprising photo. https://twitter.com/KateOsborneMP/photo

divingrightintowork 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 7 months ago

That's... fun.

That would be interesting to see an America.

ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun 7 months ago

Jesus fuck.

Coal burning and greenhouse emissions increased last year, despite the deaths and destruction from climate change really starting to bite.

And some dickwad at the telegraph wants to spend time splitting MPs on whether on not they want to oppress some tiny minority enough?

They need to fuck off and spend energy on something that matters.

xoenix[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun 7 months ago

Governments already waste billions on trans bullshit, propaganda and grifters.

But sure, let's spend even more money on clean energy made in China, because that's doing a great job of reducing global fossil fuel consumption. 🙄

jet199 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun 7 months ago

Politicians telling the truth is important.

How do you think they are going to sell people climate policy if they can't be trusted on basic facts?

You need to realise how harmful this is.

wristaction 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 7 months ago

Weird, since the cause of increased coal use is the sabotage of Russian energy supply inflicted by the same people who place a priority on gaslighting and sexually mutilating children. Maybe kill two birds with one stone by eliminating Atlanticist Neoliberals from government.

ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 7 months ago

Weird, since the cause of increased coal use is the sabotage of Russian energy supply inflicted

It's mostly more coal plants being built by China and to a lesser extent India.

But certainly the damage done by Russia to Ukrainian energy infrastructure doesn't help.

by the same people who place a priority on gaslighting and sexually mutilating children.

Okay, let's see it: Who exactly do you claim are "sexually mutilating children"? What's your best evidence of it?

Maybe kill two birds with one stone by eliminating Atlanticist Neoliberals from government.

On the other hand Europe and North America are the only economies reducing greenhouse emissions. That's where we should look to support and protect the ideals that put the less damaging policies in those economies. And where we should look to apply tariffs to international trade of goods in proportion to their carbon footprint.

xoenix[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun 7 months ago

LMAO. In other words, the past 35 years of climate action and global equity were in fact counter-productive. Free trade sent industry overseas (and impoverished working class westerners), using dirty power sources to make and ship products back to the west.

At the same time, rather than building nuclear to reduce our emissions (which we could have done several times over by now) we bought increasingly expensive windmills and solar which, rather than decreasing GHG emissions, increased them, while accelerating the decline of living standards in the west.

It's almost as if the whole thing was engineered to fail by an elite group of criminal masterminds masquerading as benevolent eco-Marxists. Now they need to censor "harmful climate misinformation" online so they aren't found out.

Germany knocking down windmills to build emergency coal power is just the icing on the cake.

ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 7 months ago

LMAO.

Ha ha ha.

What hilarious people we are.

In other words, the past 35 years of climate action and global equity were in fact counter-productive.

Not only other words. Also other meanings.

Free trade sent industry overseas (and impoverished working class westerners), using dirty power sources to make and ship products back to the west.

Not exactly what is meant by "climate action".

At the same time, rather than building nuclear to reduce our emissions

Nuclear and renewables. Don't forget renewables. They're cheaper, come online quicker, don't require any logistics around fuel and waste, and are zero risk in the event of geological or political instability.

we bought increasingly expensive windmills and solar which, rather than decreasing GHG emissions, increased them

1) increasingly cheaper.

2) Wind reduces GHG emissions compared to everything. Any renewable source is about 10% of the GHG emissions of Gas, and 5% of coal.

while accelerating the decline of living standards in the west.

How much has the standard of living declined in the west?

Germany knocking down windmills to build emergency coal power is just the icing on the cake.

They've lost about a year and a half of gains against coal since the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and they're inappropriately reducing nuclear since Fukushima.

But in the big picture, renewables are dominating power generation in Germany, and the share is increasing.

jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 7 months ago

The same woke crowd saying trans women are women are the ones who will cry racism if anyone tries to cut China's emissions.

They talk instead about "justice", that is that China should be allowed to pollute and get rich on it because they weren't as rich as the West over the last couple of hundred years and that is unfair.

Even Greta Thunberg talks about climate justice. She will never talk about China for this reason.

This is why they whole set of BS needs to be tackled, the ideology exists for people to appear and feel good not actually to do good.

wristaction 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 7 months ago

done by Russia

lol!

And then you go on to do the "There are no clinicians performing gender-affirming treatments on minors and when they do it's an essential and beneficial good" paradox.

ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 7 months ago

It's not clear what your point is.

If you have a position, state it.

[deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 7 months ago

And so the sick cycle of blame, shame and hurting other people by spreading hate continues unabated. I'm sure glad I'm on the devil's side in this, it's the only one that's going to win in the long run.

jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 7 months ago

Where's the hate?

Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 7 months ago

Well, speaking for myself, I think people's positions on women's penises are a little bit like the penises themselves: something I don't want to see.

xoenix[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 7 months ago

Well you'll be relieved to know that you can't see something that doesn't exist.

jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 7 months ago

Personally I want to see which groups people in power are willing to throw under the bus to get what they want.

If it's 50% of the population that tells me all I need to know.

bucetao6969 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 7 months ago

Good, very nice.

EternalSunset 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 7 months ago