Trump indicted by special counsel Jack Smith over bid to overturn 2020 election

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[–]Fiyanggu 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Persecuted for refusing to accept the Democrat fix of the election.

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

No. Charged with 4 attempts to overturn the election.

It's material that he knew that the Democrats didn't fix the election, as that shows that he knew he was committing crimes.

[–]thoughtcriminal 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's material that he knew that the Democrats didn't fix the election

That will be incredibly hard to prove short of him openly admitting it on record. Someone telling him he's wrong doesn't prove he knows he was wrong nor does it prove he believed he was wrong. This is already a high 1A bar but it's even higher for the POTUS acting in what he believes to be a matter of public interest. 1A protects wrong opinions and even lies (in most cases). You have a right to believe the election was stolen even if you're wrong and even if you've been presented with evidence to the contrary.

These look like the weakest charges against Trump so far in my opinion.

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That will be incredibly hard to prove short of him openly admitting it on record.

I'm not sure what the legal standard is here. Smith will try to show it in court though.

And he's spend a lot of energy detailing how he knew.

You have a right to believe the election was stolen even if you're wrong and even if you've been presented with evidence to the contrary.

Yes. And you have the right to lie about it. You don't have the right to call an insurrection to the capital based on those lies, in an attempt to overturn or delay the handing over of power.