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[–]UncleWillard56[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

How? He wasn't even in office? Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Trump fan, but I'm also not a fan of Trump Derangement Syndrome either; it blinds reason. I can see an argument for the US placating Putin and not adding more countries to NATO, which he obviously took issue with. Why were we poking that bear? What did it get us? And why are we pushing a conflict between Russia and Ukraine instead of trying to end it peacefully?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Sorry about that I was using the old math ;)

Resolved peacefully was an option back when Russia first invaded, perhaps. I'd use the analogy of home invaders terrorizing my family. If I have a means to defend myself it's not ending peacefully, it's ending violently with the home invaders being expelled with great prejudice.

[–]UncleWillard56[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Oh I agree Putin is a criminal for invading Ukraine, but what lead up to it? Would Trump in office have avoided that? Trump made it clear during his presidency that he was not a fan of NATO. I'm not either and I think adding countries to this organization is what lead to Putin (or at least and in his mind, gave him the excuse) to invade. All he wanted was assurances that NATO would stop expanding. Wouldn't everyone been better off placating his little tantrum than pushing him to drastic measures?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Personally I think Trump in office makes it more likely that countries like Russia will commit aggressive acts because Trump makes it clear he will not act as a check against such behavior. Just my opinion.

[–]UncleWillard56[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Idk if I believe that. That sounds like Democratic propaganda to me. And what has Biden done? Fork over a lot of money and logistical support to date, but hasn't committed any troops...yet. Seems like this administration is dying to get us embroiled in a conflict. Either Ukraine or Taiwan and I want neither. If part of Trump's campaign is keeping us out of those conflicts, it's something I will have to consider.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Idk if I believe that.

yea, I mean its just my opinion. But we will see. We will certainly see. What is that old proverb, may you live in interesting times? haha

[–]UncleWillard56[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

LOL, agreed. I always took "interesting" in that saying to mean "good" and "exciting." More fool me.