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[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Nord Streams was never built to increase gas transmission capacity to Europe but to bypass overland pipes flowing through Ukraine.

If and if Russians manage to annex Ukraine fully then Nord Stream will become redundant since the overland pipes can supply all Russian gas needed through newly annexed Ukraine.

[–]SoCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yes, the whole proposed motivation seem fictitious in light of WW2 and the history of why the pipes were built.

We are left to wonder if the real reason was the US intentions to hobble our own European allies or to destroy the oil and gas industry. Neither seemed successful and the article's proposed motivation seemed to fail as well. The only result was further exasperating world economic depression in the short run and killing more due to poverty and shortages in the long run.

[–]Davethe_blank_ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

why can't it be as simple as we want to sell Europe gas?

[–]SoCo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Our oil isn't very useful to Europe, due to the kind of oil it is. We mostly sell to South America. Europe's infrastructure and refineries are geared towards Russia's oil.

In my long term speculative opinion, oil is a major resource and will never cease being so, even if we go all alternative energy. It may be a thousand, two thousand, or even 10 thousand years down the road, but the next ice age is due and the human race will need every drop of oil to survive it. Tricking countries into giving up their control of oil now, is just long-game survival of the fittest.

[–]Alphix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Because why kill one bird with a stone when you can kill two, three?

They get to sell gas to Europe, AND make Europe dependent on good relations with the USA, AND create more poverty in the West.