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[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (28 children)

Big difference between allowing far right Q-Anon disinformation and left/centrist calls for better healthcare, student loan forgiveness, jobs bills, voting rights &c, as the latter will be drowned our by the well-funded far-right propaganda machine. Only the aims of the .001% will be heard on Twitter if there is unlimited free speech.

[–]AXXA 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

Musk's announced plan to sell one-time N-word passes for $4.99 does worry me.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

This.

Greedy bastard shouldn't charge more than $3.50, if that

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wonder if I could just "hold onto" someone else's N-word pass for a minute.

[–]package 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

the well-funded far-right propaganda machine

Weird how you say this but literally every channel on TV (except Fox) and every major website, company, and social network pushes leftist propaganda 24/7, and ignores, suppresses, and demonizes anything that goes against the message. Or are schizo boomers somehow more powerful than that "machine"?

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

OP was actually pushing fake news and complained about twitter users not believing his lies. Check it out. https://saidit.net/s/news/comments/7e1n/postimpeachment_nyt_finally_retracts_their/rv50

[–]AntiSemitCommunist Party 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

better healthcare, student loan forgiveness, jobs bills, voting rights

So tl;dr spreading the Imperialist loot more evenly? Gtfo. The entirety of the USA is carried by a bunch of kikes, corrupt billionaires, and CIA operatives. You remove them and you destroy the US. You preserve them but remove Dumbocrats, and the nation will probably still be around.

Your entire house literally built off the capital of the Shadow Cabal. Your furniture is subsidized 66% of its cost by Shadow Cabal Oil Superprofits known as the US Petrodollar. You wouldn't even be born if not for the Shadow Cabal, given that they are the ones who subjugated and annihilated the Native peoples.

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    [–]AntiSemitCommunist Party 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    enjoy your terminal decline :)

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      [–]AntiSemitCommunist Party 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Cry ab it

      You will never have a revolution

      Gasoline prices go BRRRRRR

      [–]Blackbrownfreestuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

      jobs bills, voting rights &c, as the the latter will be drowned our by the well-funded far-right propaganda machine

      Wonderful. Jobs bills and voting rights will be drowned out by far right propaganda? I think I just jizzed in my pants.

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        [–]Blackbrownfreestuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

        Who? The twitter cucks?

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

        re-read it, if you're not sure.

        [–]Blackbrownfreestuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

        Sure, I will post it again, so other users can re-read it.

        https://saidit.net/s/news/comments/7e1n/postimpeachment_nyt_finally_retracts_their/rv50

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          [–]Blackbrownfreestuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

          Care to explain?

          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

          [–]Blackbrownfreestuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

          As always, support your claims with a source, thanks.

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            [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

            Which is why you shouldn't believe the propaganda pushed by the Republican oligarchs. Using simplistic arguments about the US not being a perfect democracy is merely a strawman tactic used by those who favor anti-domcratic government and the control of social media by a handful of people. Musk's Twitter will support these anti-democratic people, who are helping the 1% fuck over the 99%. Your quality of life will drop, unless there is a movement to remove career politicians and elect new ones, democratically. Don't believe the oligarchs' propaganda.

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              [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

              There are several popular 'far right' social media sites, including Parler, communities.win, Gab, hexbear, steemit, and others noted here. Do you think they tolerate anything that's not right-wing? Are they promoting anti-democratic misinformation? Are they supposed to be 'free speech' sites? They're helping the 1% fuck over the 99%.

              [–]AntiSemitCommunist Party 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

              Do those sites tolerate this?

              [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

              You're able to share it here, so yes.

              [–]AntiSemitCommunist Party 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

              That content is most certainly not allowed in Parler, Gab, and any active Communities.Win community. Saidit.net is centrist, not far-right, as evident by you being able to exist on here.

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                [–]AntiSemitCommunist Party 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                Imagine being a dumbocrat, being outright proven wrong, and then calling other people "wrong"

                [–]Blackbrownfreestuff 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                Tucker Carlson was banned from twitter for refusing to admit that a male homosexual crossdresser is a women. I'm glad he's back on twitter. I think "hate speech" should be allowed. Hate speech is free speech in my opinion.

                [–]AntiSemitCommunist Party 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                This is because democracy is a flawed system that is easily subverted by oligarchs and plutocrats.

                You clearly haven't heard of Proletarian Democracies where they take away state- and national-wide campaigns by layering representatives on top of each other, minimizing the area of people one guy need to convince.

                Good way to destroy kikes.

                [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

                Free speech in general is considered good for democracy. It seems like just because this speech is on the internet, you want to disallow it. If Qanon wrote a book, nobody would be talking about censoring it. I dislike Q-Anon nonsense too, but Twitter was going way too far with their censorship. They were censoring legitimate information like Hunter Biden's laptop, and the opinions of real medical experts.

                I am fine with Pocahontas wealth tax though

                [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

                We agree on the importance of free speech. Concerns are mainly about the bombardment of misinformation and disinformaation in social media by propaganda companies, which are supported by many who don't care if they're not factual - or they genuinely believe these lies - because they want to 'own the libs' or whatever. The second concern is that most of this misinformation is right-wing politics, part of what got Trump elected, and very much what he continued to repeat, along with other crazy far right jerks then and thereafter. If the rumours are not factual, and are repeated consteantly, and are mainly for political gain, they certainly don't deserve the right to take over much of social media. Here's another argument: https://files.catbox.moe/wz9wia.jpg

                [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

                I see the point you are making and am sympathetic to it, but here is the problem:

                These companies are not competent fact checkers. Corporations with agendas should not be the arbiters of truth. Twitter has proven itself unable to distinguish between real journalism and misinformation. They have censored true stories, and allowed false ones. Their record on this is not good. They have shown themselves to be just as ideological as the Trumpers in determining what is good information. Left leaning material is largely disseminated without any serious fact checking, and any facts that make the right wing look good are censored, even when they happen to be true. I am a leftist, but that isnt acceptable.

                In my eyes, if Twitter is incapable of doing a satisfactory job of determining what is fake news and what isn't, then they ought not to weigh in on it. I am not saying I want people using racial slurs, as that does not contain useful information, it is not useful speech. I am very concerned about Twitter having an agenda when determining what is factual and what isn't. Hunter Biden laptop is the example Musk used, but there have been others. They censored Dr. Robert Malone, and many other people as well. There isnt anyone on the Twitter staff qualified to debunk Dr. Malone. They were happy to print the CNN misinformation about Joe Rogan taking "horse medicine" which was a falsehood, as that drug is used in humans and he was taking a human formulation prescribed by a doctor. This was clearly false, yet no attempt to check the facts

                I am not comfortable with some Twiiter execs being the Ministers of Truth. Corporations deciding what is truth is a very bad thing for democracy. I agree, bad speech is bad, but I hope you see the points I am raising here.

                [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

                Ministry of Truth is now another propaganda term, misusing Orwell's 1984 as an excuse argue for the spreading of misinformation and lies. If there were a Ministry of Truth, it would require an end to Fox News, and many of the other spreaders of misinformation at /s/ShitpostNews. Free speech is still permitted in the US. Users Twitter banned were spreading misinformaiton and lies. No need to permit that. Good point about Rogan's horse medicine, but I think I recall him promoting it on his show. Some info here, and here, and here. The "cocktail of meds including a horse dewormer" appears to be accurate. Regarding Malone: "during the COVID-19 pandemic, Malone has promoted misinformation about the safety and efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines". The main problem with the COVID misinformation has been that it increased the number of people who would not take the vaccine and wear masks, and many of them protested like idiots at schools and grocery stores. It created unnecessary division. The COVID vaccine is perhaps the most widely tested vaccine - within a short period - in the history of vaccines (several billion doses). Those not taking vaccines and not wearing masks have continued to prolong the lockdowns by infecting more people. Trump and others promoted this prolongation of infections, which caused further restrictions. 6 million people also died globally, and half a billion suffered from COVID. Misinformation causes millions to harm. It's used also for political gain. I'll agree with you that there are political agendas by the Democrats that are sometimes supported with misinformation. I can't think of any examples at the moment, however. One problem I have with the propaganda is the way in which it's used for the justification of war. But both parties are mouthpieces for the military industrial complex.

                [–]Blackbrownfreestuff 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

                Users Twitter banned were spreading misinformaiton and lies

                Lol, this coming from the guy who claimed Brian Sicknick was killed by Trump rioters. You should probably stay off twitter yourself.

                [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

                What do you know about the causes of strokes, genius? Has nothing to do with stress, right?

                [–]Blackbrownfreestuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

                What do you know about the causes of strokes, genius?

                Unfortunately you made a very specific claim, that Sicknick was stabbed, which is false. Then ironically, you go on complaining about twitter users not believing your lies.

                Indeed - and the impeachment managers presented it in the impeachment trial, showing the hitting and stabbing of the Sicknick with a flag pole, and others kicking him. Then he was pushed around in the crowd, his face bright red. He was tortured and died of his injuries, but Twittler cucks don't want to believe all of the news, videos, and trial testimony about this.

                https://saidit.net/s/news/comments/7e1n/postimpeachment_nyt_finally_retracts_their/rv50

                [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                Incredibly desperate of you to locate a year-old comment about a different topic in order to discuss Twitter. And learn the meaning of 'stabbed with a flagpol' which means merely that he was poked with it, and I continued after that with, "he was tortured and died of his injuries," which is a way of saying that his stroke thereafter was partially caused by the stress and torture he endured. It's as simple as that. You don't have to put so fine a point on it. Sicknick would have survived if not for the attacks on him by the crowd. Some of the insurgents are responsible for events that would cause deaths and they actively saught out AOC and Pelosi to - as some of them admit on video - to seriously harm, if not kill, them.

                [–]Blackbrownfreestuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                Some of the insurgents are responsible for events that would cause deaths

                With schizo-boomers and Qtards now back on twatter, you'll get to see it happen all over again. It will probably be worse this time. My heart aches for Democracy.

                [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                you'll get to see it happen all over again

                This is why the public hearings - re. Jan 6th - in June will be so important.

                My heart aches for Democracy.

                Seems this is sarcasm

                [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                Cool. I'm pretty sick of our democracy.

                [–]Blackbrownfreestuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                Cool. I'm pretty sick of our democracy.

                Best comment here. Democracy has failed to solve some of our biggest, yet most simple problems. It's probably time to move on.

                [–]Canbot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

                It is completely absurd and disingenuous to claim that left wing propaganda is mild and safe compared to right wing propaganda. It is the left that has stolen the election. It is the left that is destroying our ability to recognize reality by indoctrinating absurdities and lies like gender bending, intersectionality, and critical race theory. It is the left that uses violence to push its agendas by way of BLM riots and Antifa terrorism. It is the left that has weaponized propaganda and is using it to rip our society apart.

                [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

                It is completely absurd and disingenuous to claim that left wing propaganda is mild and safe compared to right wing propaganda.

                Name one left wing propaganda claim (one that's misinformation) that compares with the right wing propaganda that the election was stolen. https://files.catbox.moe/wz9wia.jpg

                It is the left that has stolen the election.

                Absolutely not, goober.

                It is the left that is destroying our ability to recognize reality by indoctrinating absurdities and lies like gender bending, intersectionality, and critical race theory.

                Not happening. This is all made-up nonsense by right-wing propaganda, to get dumbasses to protest this non-existent bulshit.

                It is the left that uses violence to push its agendas by way of BLM riots and Antifa terrorism.

                Those were. 99% peaceful, and 1% fascists and anarchists trying to cause trouble and destroy buildings (and some BLM fuckers who did indeed fuck up). But you can't summarize these numerous independent groups as one organized entity.

                It is the left that has weaponized propaganda and is using it to rip our society apart.

                That's exactly what the right-wing propaganda wants you to think. Follow the money. Those who hope to gain from the propaganda are the 1%. The 99% are fucked by this far right propaganda.

                [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                It is the left that is destroying our ability to recognize reality by indoctrinating absurdities and lies like gender bending, intersectionality, and critical race theory.

                Not happening. This is all made-up nonsense by right-wing propaganda, to get dumbasses to protest this non-existent bulshit.

                I think the elites use both sides to push polarizing talking points to keep people divided based on identity so that they do not organize based on class, which would truly threaten the elite.

                Examples: Florida Bill Banning Sexual Curriculums for K-3rd Grade

                Republicans: "They want to groom our kids and rape them!" - Hyperbole

                Dems: "They are bigots and wont let us say gay!" - Hyperbole, not what the bill says, I think Kindergarten is a little young for that talk too, this position is not necessarily based on bigotry of any sort. It is about the the correct age for teaching sex stuff in school. Referring to it as the "Dont Say Gay Bill" was intentionally misleading and inflammatory in the same way as the groomer characterizations are ("The bigots are coming for your kids!" "The Pedos are coming for your kids!")

                Again, it is in the interest of the 1% to keep both sides fighting over asinine shit like this that riles up both sides, and makes them hate each other. Nothing can get done in congress, nothing changes, and they have distracted from the real problem of the 1% are raping and pillaging us.

                Both sides are up in arms over a culture war, and the real issues of economic inequality and environmental degradation dont get addressed. This is by design. Any identity politics that isnt class politics is a tool of the elite, regardless of which side they are on.

                Is the right worse? Maybe, At least dems pretend to care about the poor and the environment, but both sides are very guilty of much fuckery. The 1% own both of the parties in the US

                [–]Rob3122 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                The whole Covid scamdemic is pure left wing jew propaganda. Now the puppet president is claiming inflation and high gas prices is russia's fault. Then we have all the lies coming out about the war in Ukraine. Let's not forget about the "gun problem" propaganda when guns aren't the problem...it's the black and Hispanics that are always hurting/killing people with guns. That's just a few of the far left bullshit that they spew.

                [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                Try to read other sources for your news. This is a laundry list of right-wing misinformation. It's like a summary of 5 months of false propaganda. Also note that COVID originated in a Wuhan lab. Lax gun laws are definitely a US problem. You'll enjoy more of the lies on Twitter soon.

                [–]Rob3122 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                Covid was man-made and funded by Democrat fags like Fauci and gates. Lax gun laws are the reason negroids shoot people so much with unregistered firearms? No , it's because blacks are animals. Remove the blacks and Hispanics and the gun crime will almost disappear entirely. Twitter has been a left wing platform run by jews.

                [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                Have you tried explaining your concerns to 1-800-EAT-SHIT?

                [–]IkeConn 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                I hope this butt hurts all the blue lefty shitstains.

                [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                You want supporters of democracy to be butt-raped?

                [–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                Butt hurt. It's butt hurt. /s/ButtHurt

                The word "rape" does not appear anywhere in my text so I think it is safe to assume that is you with a blue lefty shitstain agenda deliberately misreading my post.

                [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                Why would their butts hurt? (Young people use this term, but it makes no sense.)

                [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                [–]AXXA 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                How many pullups can Stavros Halkias do without having a heart attack?

                [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                yes, he's fugly

                [–]proc0 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                Projection as always. They want control, they want power. Also WE ARE NOT A FUCKING DEMOCRACY FFS.

                [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                grow up

                [–]hfxB0oyAPirate Party 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                Keep in mind that when they say 'our democracy', they don't mean 'everybody's democracy'.