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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Read his Letters compilation. He clearly debunks your views.

Also, read the opening to LOTR where he talks about applicability being better and more worthwhile than allegory, and that LOTR is applicability not allegory.

You describe an allegory.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

didn't debunk the views

tolkien has based views and was against race mixing, you could say he was a product of his time I guess, but it was a good time and we should go back to it.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I'm going to make a new thread and fucking shove his words down your throat.

You are dumb old person, I hope you know that.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

"It is a mark of evil things that came in the Great Darkness that they cannot abide the Sun; but Saruman's Orcs can endure it, even if they hate it. I wonder what he has done? Are they Men he has ruined, or has he blended the races of Orcs and Men? That would be a black evil!"

based!

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Lmao, you are reading so heavily into this.

He straight up denies this view in his Letters. It's partly why his son published his letters.

Also, YOU TALK ABOUT ALLEGORY, which he clearly and vehemently goes against with his views on APPLICABILITY.

Get this through your skull. I'm going to find the proper letters and source them with passages from the book. Black men are from Harad, they are described in the Battle of Pellenor Fields, fighting for Sauron, alongside EVERY race except for dwarves, hobbits, elves, and druadan. However, white Numenoreans fight for evil, they are called black Numenoreans, but they are white guys. Traitors of Gondor.

And the allies befriend many non white races and make alliances with them. The Druadan being a good example of this, however, the swarthy men of Lebinnin being similar.

You people can't accept that you are wrong, can you? White people can be found on both sides of the conflict, ME isn't Europe, and Valinor isn't America. You have retarded views that are debunked by the man himself.

Edit: When he says "white fury of the northmen" or" black hearts of wildmen" he is talking about the light or lack of light coming from the FEA, the SPIRIT, the etheric IN-DWELLER, not the skin. You are retarded.

[–]mahavishnunj 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

You are retarded.

check out past posts. if this person is real, its unbelievable. im thinking,'no fucking way this poster is real'.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I know about Popper, but I try to respond to ALL active users, be they obvious shills, or bots.

Sometimes I even respond to the America-bot.

[–]mahavishnunj 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

"It is a mark of evil things that came in the Great Darkness that they cannot abide the Sun; but Saruman's Orcs can endure it, even if they hate it. I wonder what he has done? Are they Men he has ruined, or has he blended the races of Orcs and Men? That would be a black evil!"

based!

BRILLIANT take as always from popper!

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

thanks