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[–]la_cues 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

https://www.backwoodshome.com/

https://www.self-reliance.com/

https://www.lowtechmagazine.com/

https://www.notechmagazine.com/

https://smallfarmfuture.org.uk/

https://freedomcells.org/

Don't listen to the naysayers. It is possible and it will be, in part, inevitable. Network, get to know your community. BUILD COMMUNITY Make a move to more rural. Learn some skills. Hunting, preserving food, energy needs. The proper tools, equipment. Plus NETWORK AND BUILD COMMUNITY.

[–]Ponderer[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you. This is excellent advice.

NETWORK AND BUILD COMMUNITY.

I am with you 100%. I would like to write guides about this as well.

[–]raven9 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

As someone who dabbles in gardening I think it is worth mentioning that gardening and farming today is about as far from self-sufficiency as you can get. Most growers use motorized equipment to prepare the ground, herbicides to suppress weeds, soil conditioners to adjust acidity etc, they buy all their seeds from commercial farming suppliers, they use commercial fertilizer and they spray their crops with pesticides.

Try growing crops with to none of the above and you'll find it is a daunting prospect that will quickly reveal why we sometimes see people on tv starving in other countries because of crop failures. I think to have any hope of self sufficiency you probably need enough land available that you can raise cows to create fertilizer but at the very least, chickens and goats. Of course then you need a way to grow and store winter feed for them... If the world ever gets to a point where self suffiency is a must, 99.999999% of the population will have no clue how to even start so those that did learn and prepare will face hordes of thousands and millions of people marauding across the countryside tearing up everything they might be able to eat. The resulting carnage would continue for months until everything edible is consumed. All that will be left to eat is each other and don't think for one minute humans wont resort to cannibalism.

[–]Ponderer[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Dang. Thanks for sharing your perspective.

A lot of speculative works about collapse don't focus on what you mentioned. In them, civilization runs out of food and it's implied that millions of people just quietly starved to death. But I think reality would be a lot closer to your situation, with massive bands of raiders roving the countryside for months or years. Definitely something to think about in a SHTF scenario.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Self sufficiency is possible but you have to like the food which grows in your local area during the winter a lot.

And you can't do silly things like be vegan or strictly low carb.

[–]Ponderer[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Any recommendations for plants to grow?

[–]goobandit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Look up your zone and then find permaculture info for that zone.

Also if you have any indigenous communities nearby, it’s worth it to read up on them and see what they did/do.

[–]Ponderer[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks!