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[–]Jesus 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

LMFAO, Bin Laden died in December of 2001 to be used as a boogyman for both the Bush and then Obama administration.

See here:

https://www.amazon.com/Osama-Bin-Laden-Dead-Alive/dp/1566567831

that Bin Laden, who was suffering from Liver and Kidney failure in 2000 was at his death bed. It is likely that Bin Laden died in late 2001. He was on a dialysis machine since the late 1990's and could not have lived much longer, especially not in a bunker house with little to no medical supplies. Having kidney failure, he would have been one of the longest living persons on a dialysis machine who had no medical assistance and probably little supplies, if we are to take the unproven official narrative as truth. Many foreign articles were written about his death and the ceremonies that followed before being scrubbed many years later. It was western intelligence that likely used the Bin Laden narrative–might have even made a deal with him prior to his death–to prop him up as the boogeyman for geopolitical agendas after his death. Just prior to 9/11, the Bush family had met with the Bin Laden family, this cannot be a coincidence. Moreover, all the eyewitnesses of the 'Seal Team 6 raid' have made it clear that Bin Laden never lived there and that they probably, if they even did, killed an innocent man that had no relation to Bin Laden. Whether they killed someone or not–needless to say, it wasn't Bin Laden–just prior to an election in order to get Obama elected, is not hard to see. It was both a political operation and the end of one successful geopolitical PsyOp for continuous war.

Bin Laden was always a CIA asset and we can most definitely connect this information to some of his living relatives who push US/ZOG/state department geopolitical agendas. An article was written just a few weeks ago where one of Bin Laden's relatives gave her strong support for Trump, whilst wearing a 'Make America Great Again' hat. How much of that article is true, I do not know. We must remember, also, that Bin Laden was an enemy of Saudi Arabia. Back in 2001, during the 9/11 Likudnik, 5th column ZioCon and (probable) Bush oligarch event, the simulated SAUDI hijackers who had Mossad agents in Hollywood, Fl., were to, supposedly, be blamed for the 9/11 attacks. The Anthrax attacks, which had been sent to two democrat congressmen who refused to sign the patriot act were initially blamed on neo-Nazis, probably as a lampoon; and then the state of Iraq and later Al Qaeda and after that an Arab chemist who sued for libel and finally Bruce Ivins who conveniently committed suicide before his trial. Robert Mueller was a propagator during 9/11 of false information, such as finding the 'hijacker passport' in the "wreckage of UA93', not unlike the Zionist police officer that Trump just recently pardoned, Brandon Kerik, who found, allegedly, another Arab passport of one of the "hijackers" in the wreckage of the twin towers; Trump also pardoned the notorious Michael Milkin. Before ZioCon Jews in media nearly outed themselves by pushing false information, Iraq and Al Qaeda were to be blamed for the anthrax attacks. There appeared to be infighting within the executive branch and state department over which narrative to propagate. It appears the Bush aligned oligarchs wanted to blame a lone domestic terrorist who had no affiliations with Arabs, probably because independent scientists found out that the Anthrax spores were tin-coated and quite sophisticated that it had to have come from either the US, Israel or China. The Jewish neocons wanted to blame Iraq. Robert Mueller was head of the FBI, I believe, and covered-up the anthrax attacks. Later we see this ''Mueller report'' which did expose some aspects of Trump and Russia but not much else. Seems to me that Mueller is part of the Anglo side of the spectrum and Trump the British Israelism side of whom has connections to many Russian oligarchs. In the end, limited hangout narratives were pushed and not much else.

Moreover, anthrax killed a mailman who was the husband of a Florida reporter that lived right near the Mossad agents apartments. I mention this because when we observe the Anthrax letters we can see that they were written as if someone wanted the person reading them to believe that a muslim jihadist had written it. "It said death to Israel, death to the US." There was also clear incidences in the media trying to link the anthrax perps to the hijackers. These narratives were likely pre-written before the event. Two participants, Jewish, one in particular, Judith Miller, in a drill titled Operation Darkwinter where chemical agents, including Anthrax would be released by Iraq and rouge actors through the mail, were later sent fake anthrax in the mail that they then blamed on Iraq. Apparently, the planned for this and the rouge actors happened to give them fake anthrax for them to conveniently blame Iraq, and those who didn't want to sign the patriot act, got real anthrax.

What I'm trying to get at here, is this... that all of these oligarchs and Think Tanks, with mutual and diverse agendas, all benefited from the attacks and used it to their benefit.

[There] appears to be an attempt to deflect suspicion from the faction of Israeli and American Zionists who most likely planned and executed 9/11 onto the Anglo-American/Arab power bloc the former see as their main competition for influence and control over the U.S. Most powerfully symbolized by the close relationship between the Bush family and the oil-rich monarchies, this power bloc, however undemocratic and corrupt itself, has long been a thorn in the side of Israel's ambitions for regional hegemony, and as such has also for years been a favorite bogeyman of the Zionist dominated liberal end of the media and academic spectrum.

[A good history lesson; we can observe a long subversive alliance between British Israelism and Racist masonic Jewish organizations as well as Scottish Rite freemasonry directed for the longest time against the Anglo-American power bloc.]

That the criticisms leveled against them have long been valid, as this group has its own hegemonic ambitions (that manifested itself, for example, in numerous subversions of popular will around the world when those movements threatened their position), is no reason to assume that because many of its members were in a position to assist in the execution of 9/11 that they actually did so, however tempting it may be.

It should be noted that before 9/11 and after assuming the presidency (apparently illegaly), the Bush administration became the first American administration to openly call for the formation of a Palestinian state.

While many Zionists (like Noam Chomsky) advocate this solution, the Israeli political elite, led by Likud, the ideological progeny of the Irgun (the terrorist movement that called for a "Greater Israel" encompassing Jordan, Syria, and the Sinai peninsula in addition to Palestine) have no intention of allowing a Palestinian state into being.

Tellingly, upon their arrest, the five so-called "Dancing Israelis" said that "your problem is our problem...the Palestinians are the problem." Also, the first claim of responsibility for the attacks was made by the Democratic Front for the Liberation Palestine, and we all remember the American media showing us dubious video of "Palestinians celebrating the attacks". It appears that the original plan, in other words, may have been to blame Palestinian terrorists.

[...yes, this is true and also Saudi Arabia. Why Saudi Arabia, because Saudi's are friends to the Bush Oligarchs, at least financially, but the neocons and Likudniks are not the greatest friends of the Saudis. This is made clear in the Likudniks 'Securing the Realm' document where they depict Saudi Arabia as an enemy of which to be Balkenized. Is it any wonder then that later Bin Laden, an enemy of Saudi Arabia, would be blamed despite those "Saudi" "hijackers" with Mossad handlers? Of course, there were former Mossad agents in Britain, probably working for MI6 that blamed Al Qaeda and Afghanistan on live tv which went hand-in-hand with the UNOCAL agenda against Afghanistan. Kristol and other neocons would then go unto do presentations at Harvard and write books about how disastrous the Afghanistan war was, despite them being pro-interventionist against Iraq and other states. I remember Kagan even saying during an interview, "Who cares about Afghanistan, it's about Iraq."]

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Covid is the new Bin Laden.

The TSA may be considered the good old days if things continue without people waking up.

It's difficult to imagine this future, but it doesn't sound unrealistic either.

[–]Jesus 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Declassified information can be just another PSYOP at this point.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

When your marketing team is at the bottom of the ideas barrel...

[–]DoubleReverse 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (18 children)

He can't possibly be as unprepared as Trump.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Which is part of Trump's appeal to me. It's effectively trolling Congress hard to have to deal with the dude. Fuck those stupid fuckers in their stupid fucking assholes.

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Nice, cutting off your nose to spite your face. I don't understand how self destructive assholes like you haven't been selected out of the gene pool. Go burn your house down to spite your landlord.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It is an incredibly rare opportunity for some measure of retribution.

[–]DoubleReverse 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

When your grandkids wonder why they live in a shithole country with a hellish climate, a failing economy, endlessly corrupt government, and a repressed populace, you can tell them it was all worth it because Nancy Pelosi got hers.

[–]Entropick 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

people are still procreating?

[–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

not at all. We were all tired of professional politicians fucking us all whilst smiling and being suave. Fuck them. Get a businessman in who knows how to make deals and most importantly: Make me laugh

[–]FollowTheMoney 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

If you call being the first president to not start a war since Reagan. Increase jobs domestically, force other nations to pay equal share in NATO, broker peace deals in the middle east, challenge China to compete fairly not being prepared then you clearly have some sort of blinders on. He clearly isn't the best, but he is certainly better than Joe Biden imo. Biden can barely get through sentences during most of his public speaking opportunities. And you want him to conduct diplomacy with adversaries to US interests??

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

He has sabotaged our foreign relations, handicapped our agencies and institutions, catastrophically undermined our pandemic response, exercised rampant corruption, filled the government with his cronies, contributed massively to wealth inequality, lied every time he opened his mouth, and countless other failures. So yes, I call that unprepared.

Biden can barely get through sentences during most of his public speaking opportunities.

"Look, having nuclear—my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart—you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world—it’s true!—but when you're a conservative Republican they try—oh, do they do a number—that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune—you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged—but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me—it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are (nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right—who would have thought?), but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners—now it used to be three, now it’s four—but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years—but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us."

  • Donald Trump

And you want him to conduct diplomacy with adversaries to US interests??

Biden won't enable Russian espionage attacks and drive all our allies and trade partners toward China like Trump does. And I know you must love how much Trump simps for Israel.

[–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

US foreign relations needed to be sabotaged, as they hurt the US and enabled violent hate states that are a threat to the world.

US agencies and institutions needed to be handicapped, as they were bringing in Marxist / globalist policies and ideology that has corrupted the minds of youth and increased conflict and disharmony.

His cronies seem to be doing a great job, so good to have them instead of Obama's.

As for lies. You don't understand negotiations. You don't understand haggling, in fact, you don't have a clue.

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

This is what alt righters actually believe

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

And people like yourself believe that the civilisation that birthed them should be destroyed. weird how people are.

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Idk how you fall for this shit. If I wanted to destroy it, why would I be trying to protect it from you and the Republicans? I suspect you don't actually think that and you're just acting in bad faith.

[–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I suspect you don't actually think that and you're just acting in bad faith.

That kind of response is typical. You refuse to believe what people say. The same way leftists refuse to believe the IPCC / climate people when they say that they want to dismantle economies, the NWO when it says it wants to run the world, Islam when it says that it wants to kill all kuffar, etc.

You can't understand, because you are too lazy to try and put yourself into another mindset, so you just reject instead of hearing.

You are a failure.

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lol ok. I shouldn't have underestimated your gullibility.

[–]FollowTheMoney 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

He has sabotaged our foreign relations...exercised rampant corruption

Provide me some examples for these claims in particular. Russia collusion was exonerated, we got 3 years of a red bating, evidence free conspiracy theory by the democrats and left-wing media.

catastrophically undermined our pandemic response

He shut down travel from China almost immediately. What are you referring to specifically?

Biden won't enable Russian espionage attacks and drive all our allies and trade partners toward China like Trump does.

I fail to see that based on Biden's own words and actions. The guy has allegedly used his influence to help his son secure business deals with China and Ukraine. Trump has been anti-China since day 1, I fail to see how your point makes logical sense when he forced harder sanctions on them. Why would he drive more commerce towards China? If you can provide an example here I would love to see it.

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Provide me some examples for these claims in particular.

https://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/insights/27959/on-foreign-policy-trump-has-sown-confusion-and-upended-norms

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/07/31/trump-destruction-foreign-policy/

Russia collusion was exonerated,

https://www.pennlive.com/opinion/2020/07/trumps-capitulation-to-china-and-russia-opinion.html

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/01/former-national-security-adviser-trump-putin-424458

He shut down travel from China almost immediately. What are you referring to specifically?

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/10/inside-story-how-trumps-covid-19-coordinator-undermined-cdc

https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3417

https://youtu.be/TgZAazfHo7k

I fail to see that based on Biden's own words and actions. The guy has allegedly used his influence to help his son secure business deals with China and Ukraine.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/how-fake-persona-laid-groundwork-hunter-biden-conspiracy-deluge-n1245387

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/09/24/watchdog-report-cites-3400-conflicts-of-interest-during-trump-presidency/

Why would he drive more commerce towards China?

"China has expanded in a vacuum left by the US retreat under the Trump administration into “America First” jingoism and unilateralism."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/05/31/trump-has-officially-put-more-tariffs-on-u-s-allies-than-on-china/

https://youtu.be/hhMAt3BluAU

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/24/us-china-mike-pompeo-america-first

[–]FollowTheMoney 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Nicely done. I don't want to continue this further but, I appreciate the insight. I've read through several of these. I'm a firm believer that the truth lies somewhere in the middle when it comes to publications. You've provided a lot of left leaning publications so they inherently have their bias. I can just as easily find right leaning publications that refute points of these. We really need a middle ground in news reporting. I feel like I never get the middle take of here's what happened, here's what it means. Both sides always provide some general, former aid, or "insider" with anecdotal/opinion based information about someone that asserts that publication's preferred demographic viewpoint. Love that video Trump's biggest failure, PolandBall was a great sub.

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're only bringing up publishers to distract from the point. Everything I said is public knowledge corroborated by countless sources and freely available proof. Biased reporting doesn't invalidate reality.

[–]zyxzevn 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Washington Post? Project Mockingbird, just as NYT.
Sorry, is there a less trust-worthy source on these topics?

[–]redditbegay 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The Washington Post on Friday reported on details from the documents, which will soon be made public.

This was from 2012, what other news are they underreporting?

The documents also reportedly reveal bin Laden's concern over al Qaeda's image among Muslims. He told his top lieutenant to warn regional leaders to avoid "unnecessary civilian casualties" in Muslim countries

Wow. this is the fucking alquada asshole saying this.

Bin Laden also reportedly argued in favor of changing his organization's name. The al Qaeda brand, he explained, was tarnished

lol!

[–]flugegeheimen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

lol!

Well, their ISIS franchise experienced unprecedented market success a few years later, so he had a point.

[–]The_Lear_Bluce_Ree 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Little did he know that none of our crooked cunty politicians are fit to serve. I bet he feels like quite the fool now.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Stupid, fake and PsyOpish to the core.

[–]turtlew0rk 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So is this info more hurtful to Biden or Trump? Wouldn't you not want the endorsement of Bin Laden? If Bin Laden was quoted as praising Biden's professionalism and statesmanship would it better or worse? And WTF does Bin Laden know about how to be prepared for being vice president? And furthermore how does he know Biden has not prepared properly? Also, why is a fucking story?

Its a psyop to keep us busy doing mental gymnastics in our head figuring out how this looks good for our pretend group and bad for the other pretend group.