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[–]cunninglingus[S] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (19 children)

Have you seen info on the Hamas rockets? They're pathetic. On the very rare occasion they hit anything in Israel, they barely leave a mark. Hamas doesn't make rockets that can cause anything like the damage you can see in the videos.

That hospital was hit by a 1000 lb or 2000 lb JDAM or similar.

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    [–]cunninglingus[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

    Look at the evidence, ffs.

    Moreover, Israel / IDF had warned 6 hospitals that they should evacuate BEFORE the bombing.

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      [–]cunninglingus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      Did Hamas target a hospital? (No.)

      Israel Tweeted several different excuses in the past two days and after the bombing, all indicating that their carpet bombing of north AND South and at the Rafah crossing buildings of all kinds were targeted and that EVERYONE should evacuate those buildings, and after the destroyed hospital, several IDF reasons were quickly posted and deleted, though now you'll see a full-time IDF propaganda campaign to blame Hamas for an explosion that's not possible with their own smaller missiles.

      The IDF identifies Hamas missiles as incredibly innacurate, claiming 30% of them never get beyond the Gaza walls (they don't know this), and that the heaviest bomb has a warhead of only 317 lbs, whereas the IDF are dropping bombs greater than 3 times that, capable of explosions the size you can see in the 24/7 streamed video (not by munitions on the rooftop). You can also hear the impact in that video, the speed of which is is higher than typical Hamas rockets. One of IDF's early arguments was that there were military targets in that hospital. Israel has also targeted convoys of ambulances heading south (videos of that are available). I agree with you that we don't really know, but there are many reasons not to trust the IDF and their propaganda campaign. Remember the beheading of 40 children that Israel claimed but didn't happen? Israel police also killed Israelis at a Kibbutz who were cought in crossfire. A resident of that Kibbutz is very angry about it, blaming the Israel government and Hamas for the attrocities. The Palestine General Secretary claims it was a deliberate attack by Israel (I'm watching on the BBC now). We can expect that Israel would naturally do everything possible to claim the missile was from Hamas and "fell short" of reaching Israel. I'd agree that this is plausible, but again, Israel has no credibility. Israel wants $10 BILLION in military aid to help with this carpet bombing of Gaza. Put it this way: Israel has had a decades-old plan to get Palestinians out of the region, at almost any cost. Regardless of the origin of the missile that hit the hospital, it's the direct result of this incredibly disproportionate, bloody, murderous, highly destructive response from Israel that will claim thousands of lives. My view is that the bomb that hit that hospital was much larger than the 317 lb Hamas M-302, and was thus one of the many missiles Israel has been dropping on Gaza.

      [–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Now's the time to just straight up admit you are just a foaming at the mouth racist.

      Literally writing all that to make yourself look a fool because you are so tribal you always have to see the side you support as innocent children and the other side as pure evil.

      Regardless of the origin of the missile that hit the hospital, it's the direct result of this incredibly disproportionate, bloody, murderous, highly destructive response from Israel that will claim thousands of lives.

      Even to the point of saying that Israel are making islamists fire rockets at them. What the actual fuck?

      This is exactly your mental issue, you are completely delusional once you've picked a side that you will endorse anything, even mass murder.

      The rockets being fired at the moment are a directg continuation of the attack where people were raped and mutilated for the lulz. That wasn't to help Hamas or the Palestinians. That was pure sadism and racial hatred.

      [–]cunninglingus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      A key problem here is that I offer information about a humanitarian crisis in Gaza, without insulting you, and your response is in the form of cheap attacks against me that have no basis in reality.

      Line 1) It's not 'foaming at the mouth racism' to be concerned about Palestinians and Israelis

      Line 2) It's not foolish or tribal

      Line 3) I do not claim that Israel has made Hamas do anything (I mention a natural result)

      Line 4) I am not delusional, nor have I picked only one side (note the Kibbutz lady's concerns)

      Line 5) There is no evidence of 'rape or mutilation for the lulz'

      [–]cunninglingus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      [–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      Yes, 6 hospitals in the city. The city they told to evacuated.

      [–]cunninglingus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      After which bombs rained down on the area, with the potential to hit hospitals.

      [–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      No, one hospital had an explosion in a car park. None of the others had anything happen.

      [–]brimshae 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Look at the evidence, ffs.

      The hospital wasn't hit at all, just the parking lot. 500 deaths was also a lie. https://twitter.com/ariehkovler/status/1714604789286252554

      Just presume everything you hear about over there is a lie.

      [–]Musky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      1000 lb or 2000 lb JDAM or similar.

      Healthy at any size, motherfucker.

      [–]cunninglingus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      this doesn't make sense

      and calm down, ffs.

      [–]Musky 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Poor innocent children

      [–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      Ah, socks the miltary expert.

      You know full well that Hamas stores weapons in hospitals. Any small device hitting a cache of explosives will have that effect.

      Go look at the videos of the rockets not just the bang.

      [–]cunninglingus[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      There's now a geo-locating video on Reddit that also offers a better image of a rocket that was shot down. IDF note that this rocket still had much of its fuel. Looks like a Hamas rocket to me, IF all that is true. NONETHELESS, Hamas would not exist if Israel did not murder, displace, and seriously abuse Palestinians over the past few decades. In that sense, Hamas is a result of Israeli terrorism. I think Israel obviously has a right to defend itself, but we know they have this habit of carpet-bombing and displacing Palestinians after every attack of any sort (some of which potential false flags). I remember when the PLO was the voice of Palestine, and there were peace talks. Israel stopped talking to the PLO and started talking to Hamas. If a Hamas rocket hit the hospital (Israel has changed its story on what exactly happened several times, but is now stiking with the Hamas missile story), it was a rocket that was in response to and the result of Israel's continued genocide.

      [–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Hamas would not exist if Israel did not murder, displace, and seriously abuse Palestinians over the past few decades

      This is plain bullshit and you know it. Islamists exist and kill people across the middle east especially religious minorities. Please stick to reality and not your fantasy world.

      Keep repeating carpet bombing like you know what that means, military expert.

      Also you seem to conveniently forget that Gaza was owned by Egypt and the West Bank by Jordan until the 1990s so they were ruled by them that whole time and not Israel. But those countries aren't attacked or monstered in the same way.

      You also know full well that Hamas is currently firing rockets as a continuation of it's attack where it raped and murdered innocent people, nothing to do with self defence. They know those rockets aren't going to stop Israel, it's about instilling fear in the population.