Heat waves currently happening in North America, Europe 'virtually impossible' without climate change: Report

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[–]ActuallyNot[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

How many fewer storms, tornados, hurricanes?

Isn't a hurricane a storm?

If you cannot clearly articulate the outcomes of your actions then all you are doing is experimenting and hoping it will work.

Research on impacts is summarized in the documents here

How much cooler will it be and will being cool be good for humanity?

It will be warmer. By stopping greenhouse emissions we can reduce how much warmer.

After all, we know more people die of the cold,

That will happen less

food shortages

That will happen more

(earth is greener today than anytime in recorded history)

Define "greener", and link to these records of it you reference.

wind doesn’t always blow and the sun doesn’t always shine.

Proven Technologies for storing energy include thermal, gravitational and chemical.

Solar is good for what 5.5 hours a day?

Depends how geographically large your grid is. And the latitude and season.

Wind slightly more?

Depends where.

Nuclear goes 24/7.

No one can give us, if you do this here is how your life will be better, which means it is all bullshit.

Do you believe exercise is good for you, and obesity is bad?

Or that smoking shortens your life expectancy.

If you cannot clearly articulate the outcomes of your actions then all you are doing is experimenting and hoping it will work.

Research on impacts is summarized in the documents here

This is not some six sigma project where we adjust the inputs to see how outputs change these are peoples lives we are fucking with.

Sounds like a good reason not to lie to those people that we've only increased CO2 by 3%, and the impact is negligible, when we've increased it 50%, and the heatwave that is killing people is 96% likely to have been caused by it. And the increase in food prices is contributed to by it.

[–]Threesrwild 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Again, no specifics. That report gives us nothing regarding what to expect in the future regarding how many hurricanes and what intensity should we expect? How many degrees will the temperature fall? Should we expect more or less rain? If you have no metrics it is all bullshit which you have zero. Also, you have no real world examples where any of this will make a difference because it won’t because it hasn’t. Go research Sri Lanka.

Also, no one ever considers the positives from bio-fuel (fossil fuel) and how it has allowed third world countries to easily improve their infrastructures and peoples lives. Go to India and ask them how this will work when they still have people shitting in the fields and streets.

Your wind and solar still have zero hope and again, until we have batteries that can actually store electricity on an industrial scale it won’t work. Hell, even Elon has said we need gas and oil. No way people can afford these and electricity is becoming more expensive because solar and wind are more expensive. Florida raised rates 20% in January (and Florida is moving to wind and solar) add on top a $60,000 car payment and people won’t be able to afford it, so more government subsidies, which means more taxes and more expense.

I can’t wait for a tornado, storm or hurricane to wipe out a solar field or wind field and now you are without X% of your grid for an extended period of time. Good luck.

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

You claimed "earth is greener today than anytime in recorded history", and you have avoided questions about it

Please link to your source, and explain how you are measuring "greener".

That report gives us nothing regarding what to expect in the future regarding how many hurricanes and what intensity should we expect?

Research on impacts is summarized in the documents here, and include a break down of changes to climate by region.

How many degrees will the temperature fall?

It won't fall. It takes a few decades for 60% of the warning due to an increase in CO2 to take effect.

So it will continue to warm rapidly for a few decades if we stop all greenhouse emissions tonight. Then it the warming will slow.

Also, you have no real world examples where any of this will make a difference

Research on impacts is summarized in the documents here

Also, no one ever considers the positives from bio-fuel (fossil fuel) and how it has allowed third world countries to easily improve their infrastructures and peoples lives.

For the year 2000, the anthropogenic part of climate change killed about 160,000 people, mostly from the poor parts of sub saharan Africa and South East Asia.

http://www.regionalclimateperspectives.com/uploads/4/4/2/5/44250401/humanmortalityfactors.pdf

The numbers will be increasing since then on average.

Your wind and solar still have zero hope and again, until we have batteries that can actually store electricity on an industrial scale it won’t work.

Proven energy storage systems in use now include molten salt and pumped hydro. Batteries are also economic but not for the amounts of energy that would carry the grid for days.

No way people can afford these and electricity is becoming more expensive because solar and wind are more expensive.

No they're becoming cheaper. It's fossil fuels that are becoming more expensive.

Florida raised rates 20% in January

They should rely less on fossil fuels. And they should let the market set the price. Communism is economically inefficient.

add on top a $60,000 car payment and people won’t be able to afford it, so more government subsidies, which means more taxes and more expense.

Recover the costs of flood insurance from fossil fuel sales. The taxpayer shouldn't be covering Florida's FEMA debt.

I can’t wait for a tornado, storm or hurricane to wipe out a solar field or wind field and now you are without X% of your grid for an extended period of time. Good luck.

You think coal and had power generation plans are immune to hurricanes storms and tornados?

How?

[–]Threesrwild 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

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[–]ActuallyNot[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

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Please link to a peer reviewed source that backs up these speculations. There is a lot of fossil fuel funded PR on the internet, and being able to link to some of it doesn't actually prove anything other than it exists.

Also, You claimed "earth is greener today than anytime in recorded history", and you have avoided questions about it

I see that you're unable to explain what you mean by that, or provide proof.

If you have no metrics it is all bullshit which you have zero.

[–]Threesrwild 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Big oil doesn’t have to worry about shit because you still need oil and gas to go find those minerals, mine them, transport them and then turn them into batteries. Plastics, pvc pipes, clothes, all those fucking electronics you are using, food. Oil isn’t going anywhere and everyone knows it and continual base load is impossible with wind and solar. End of story. Good luck with your rolling blackouts during the summer.

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Big oil doesn’t have to worry about shit because you still need oil and gas to go find those minerals, mine them, transport them and then turn them into batteries.

About 74% is used for fuel. They'll notice the drop in demand.

Plastics, pvc pipes, clothes, all those fucking electronics you are using, food.

Those aren't bad for the climate unless you burn them. If the cost of the externalities wasn't pushed off onto farm owners and bushfire victims, non-fossil sources would be more viable.

Oil isn’t going anywhere and everyone knows it and continual base load is impossible with wind and solar.

But not with pumped hydro, thermal storage and nuclear power.

End of story.

Good that you admit that its a story. As you point out above in a moment of total lack of self awareness "If you have no metrics it is all bullshit which you have zero."

Good luck with your rolling blackouts during the summer.

My solar panels are more than sufficient to run my air conditioning. In the hottest part of a hot day, blasting the air con only consumes about half of my generation.

[–]Ethnocrat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

About 74% is used for fuel.

Your ignorance on this topic is truly staggering. When oil is refined you can't just choose what parts of the oil you want. You get everything. So even if we didn't need gasoline, or diesel, anymore we would still be producing it. What are you going to do with it? Bury it? Shoot it into space? Lmao! You might want to eDuCaTe YoUrSeLf.