No jail time for axe-wielding black man who set Asian UC Berkeley students on fire with blowtorch

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[–]Node 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (14 children)

You wouldn't mind if he sprayed flaming WD-40 in your moms face?

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Of course I would mind. But justice isn't about personal vengeance and retribution. Especially not when nobody was actually hurt. Not even minor injuries. No injuries at all. There's no point in talking about what punishment is appropriate if he did something different from what he actually did.

McGlone committed crimes while not in his right mind. Turning him into a professional criminal by sending him to jail just for the satisfaction of seeing somebody get punished doesn't help. US prisons don't rehabilitate criminals, and they don't even protect the public from them, except temporarily. They just create more and worse criminals. The US imprisons more people than any other country in the world ("land of the free" my arse), if prison worked the country would be the safest in the world.

McGlone will have to be on his best behaviour for the next decade. One slip up and you'll get his wish and he'll go to jail. Then he'll be out again in five, a hundred times more dangerous than he is now.

[–]niggerjewfaggot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Why do you support the slaughtering, raping, torturing, displacing, burning, and kidnapping millions of Ukrainian people, but not jail time for a violent crime? You've explained the latter rather well, but not the former. Other Saiditors are consistent in their desire to ruin the lives of others who aren't reflections of themselves. Why aren't you?

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why do you support the slaughtering, raping, torturing, displacing, burning, and kidnapping millions of Ukrainian people

Fake news. Even the Kiev fascists haven't killed etc "millions" of Ukrainians.

Not from lack of trying.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Careful. Is population taken into account when looking at those statistics? Because if not, the US obviously imprisons more people simply because it has a lot more people.

I had a similar problem a few days ago, when I couldn't get someone to understand that Rottweilers are at least as dangerous as pit bulls. Rottweilers are responsible for far fewer dog attacks, but there are also far fewer Rottweilers.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The US is well known to have one of the highest prison population per capita

It's easy to say the US has more people than some countries, but despite its geographic size, it only has about 6x the population of the UK or 4x the population of Germany, each vastly more densely populated than the US...

[–]weavilsatemyface 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Is population taken into account when looking at those statistics?

Yes. On a per capita basis, the US imprisons the highest number of people in the world. Even individual states imprison more than the rest of the developed world.

The exact number varies from year to year and source to source, and you might find the occasional reference that lists the US as second or third. These sorts of statistics are not an exact science, but if you look at the general trend the US consistently jails more people per capita than everyone else. Even places like China.

It may be that El Salvador's recent crack down on gang members may have pushed the US into second place, or maybe not. But over the last three or four decades the US consistently leads the world rankings in per capita number of imprisoned people.

The US uses the prison system as a source of cheap slave labour. They don't even try to hide it they're proud of it.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm sure North Korea is in first, but idk if they even count.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

North Korea doesn't release statistics of imprisonment in their country or allow anyone to inspect the prisons, but according to the US State Department (so heavily biased against NK) there are between 80 and 240 thousand prisoners in the country. Per 100,000 population, that would be between 308 and 923. At the high end that's well above the USA but at the low end that would put them around about 15th in the world, below (e.g.) Russia, Brazil and Panama. If we split the difference between the two estimates, that would put NK second, behind only the USA.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's definitely on the higher end. Did you know that one of the first things parents teach their children there is not even to whisper, lest the mice hear you and rat you out?

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Did you know that one of the first things parents teach their children there is not even to whisper

I too believe every piece of propaganda I am told.

[–]Oyveygoyim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

And yet with niggers they don't even make up a quarter of the population yet are responsible for more than half of all violent crime in this country...

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I can believe that there's some bias against them in court. But not because of racism, but because they have more masculine physical characteristics.

[–]scornedandsedated 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

He is not facing jail time because he is black and lives in califuckup. Try it. Go out and try to use a homemade flamethrower on someone...betchya go to jail.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Go out and try to use a homemade flamethrower on someone...betchya go to jail.

You mean like Mark Foad?

Or Dan Rigney?

The courts are not always as stupid as you think. They recognise that there are many reasons why people who commit assault should not be jailed.

White people have committed far worse crimes and avoided jail. Crimes ending with actual deaths, not just a scare.