Spotify to Take Down Neil Young’s Music After His Joe Rogan Ultimatum

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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

then we divert the attention away from vaccines for COVID

A virtuous lie, huh? The problem is the vaccines don't work very well.

This is about the 'transmission' of COVID, not about the 'spread' of COVID

You're playing word games now. You know you're on shaky territory when you're reduced to playing word games.

No - because of long-term bronchial, neurological, and fatigue problems that you'd not get with a flu or cold

You can totally get those with colds and flus too. Scary as shit. It's just rare. Just like with covid. I know I've linked to an article on it previously with you

whereas only a few Dems are doing this.

Democrats pandered too much to the alt left for a lot of their mainstream base, and their policies haven't been working great. Like democrats want less black people incarcerated in theory, but generally didn't realize there wasn't a systemic racism behind it to fix -- like they were told -- it instead meant ignoring crimes. And this is okay for the wealthy left who don't have to live with those realities, but they alienate their base. As an example.

People are leaving blue states in record numbers for a reason.

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The problem is the vaccines don't work very well.

The problem is that the right-wing propagandists want you to say this. Look at the history of virology, and the periodic decline of COVID cases when vaccines help reduce the spread of COVID. (Vaccines also have to be updated for new strains.)

You're playing word games now. You know you're on shaky territory when you're reduced to playing word games.

It's a word game to conflate 'transmission' with the 'spread' of a virus, because vaccines help build antibodies; they would never stop transmission, as that's not what they've ever been for. They are for helping to build antibodies so that people suffer less and thus do not spread the virus as much as they would have if unvaccinated. (This shouldn't require an explanation. It's as if people want to believe the misinformation rather than think about the misinformation and how it conflates language in order to keep people from understanding what vaccines do. Think also about the politicization of medicine in this context. Why is the right-wing politicizing medicine? They can only get votes from people who aren't thinking.)

You can totally get those with colds and flus too.

No - consquences of COVID are potentially much more serious. This is well-known.

Democrats ...

Another way to draw attention away from ALL of the GOP, which are fucking over the 99% (with the help of a few traitor Dems)

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if they really worked and didn't cause myocarditis there'd be no need for a mandate, people would be knocking down the doors of pharmacies trying to get the shot

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They don't cause myocarditis in 4 billion of the patients, and they do work, and there are many around the world who've tried to get shots. Pharmacies normally don't have the shots in most countries.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Look at the history of virology, and the periodic decline of COVID cases when vaccines help reduce the spread of COVID. (Vaccines also have to be updated for new strains.)

Look at what happens with the flu shot. They always get the strain wrong, by the time a vaccine can be distributed it is already out of date. It might help reduce severity of infection anyways. And that's great for people at risk. Vaccine mandates and mass vaccination don't seem indicated.

It's a word game to conflate 'transmission' with the 'spread' of a virus, because vaccines help build antibodies; they would never stop transmission, as that's not what they've ever been for. The

That goal post keeps moving. Very Bill Clinton-esque, definition of sex kinda thing. Again, not something you have to do with a solid argument. I know that's not a high PoD argument, but it's true.

that's not what they've ever been for.

So many revisions. Was I supposed to get polio or measles? Those shots were to stop that.

The CDC says the vaccine doesn't prevent the spread of Covid. It's very straightforward.

Why is the right-wing politicizing medicine?

The right at least has the virtue of being on the correct side this time, but you're right, damn both parties for making sport of this.

Another way to draw attention away from ALL of the GOP, which are fucking over the 99% (with the help of a few traitor Dems)

They aren't heroes, they're politicians.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Look at what happens with the flu shot...

mRNA treatmenst for SARs viruses are being developed and updated regularly, to deal with new strains, and the lockdowns help reduce the spread of the virus. If anti-maskers would stop listening to the propaganda, the virus would not spread as much, because more people would be vaccinated.

That goal post keeps moving.

Methods for achieving the goal changes when new research helps direct those methods.

So many revisions. Was I supposed to get polio or measles? Those shots were to stop that.

Because you're vaccinated against polio and measles, you have sufficient antibodies to deal with the when you are infected. All other vaccinated people in the US also have sufficient antibodies, so it is quite rare.

The CDC says the vaccine doesn't prevent the spread of Covid. It's very straightforward.

True - you can be infected with all viruses. The vaccines do not prevent infection. Vaccines reduce the spread of viruses by helping increase one's antibodies.

The right at least has the virtue of being on the correct side this time.

We do of course disagree on a few matters, but one thing we absolutely disagree on is this comment. The GOP are fleecing the 99% by pushing misinformation and disinformation that gives people the false impression that medical science cannot be trusted. It's insane, and shows how much the GOP are manipulating the gullible people they are in the process of robbing.

They aren't heroes, they're politicians.

No one is discussing heros. A democracy elects public servants who have one job: do what their constituents hae elected them to do (not line their pockets with corporate and rich person handouts, as well as insider trading).

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Rand Paul says Omicron is nature's vaccine. It sounds like the risk of a bad batch is much less with this nature vaccine.