Mom, 46, who raped her son’s friend, 11, when he came to her house for a sleepover is jailed for ten years

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[–]Tom9152 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

When I was 11, I bagged my friends moms to abuse me.

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    [–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    That is unreasonable. This is why people who have been abused should not be involved in these matters. We need laws that are reasonable.

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      [–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      Yes. Maybe you are virtue signaling. Maybe you are being sarcastic, or bombastic. There are a few reasons why someone would say that. But the people who truly believe that are experiencing emotions from trauma that are overriding their logical circuitry.

      Naturally anyone could off handedly say "kill all criminals", or some such thing. But no intelligent, reasonable person wants to actually live in a world that kills all criminals.

      So if you said it because you were abused I don't think any amount of reasoning could ever get through to you. Including a person like that in a discussion on which they could not be reasoned with is catastrophic. If you said it because you think it sounds cool and haven't really thought about what it means there is hope that in a real life situation where someone took the time to explain it all you might come around.

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        [–]Canbot 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        Well, not that I have the time to make a detailed argument but here are some points to consider.

        1. First you have to define what "taking advantage of children" means. Is a child molester the same as a rapist? Then you have to define what "severely punished" means. Is everyone going to jail for life for touching a child regardless of circumstances?

        2. If the punishments for varied intensities of crime (all of which fall under child abuse) get different severities of punishment by what logic do you justify life in prison? How can you justify that severity of punishment when murder often does not result in life in prison?

        3. If the sex is consensual, but illegal as in statutory rape, does the person still get life in prison? Who are you to destroy the life of a person who caused no harm but ran afoul of the laws? Not all statutory rape is the result of grooming, coercion, and harmful. Should there not be a court case to determine the exact amount of harm and have a proportional punishment? Do you send two teenage lovers to prison for life?

        4. How do you justify life in prison for touching a child when far more harm can be done to the child in other ways that are not sexual? Is all harm done to a child automatically lead to life in prison?

        5. How do you justify abandoning the tenant of "the punishment should fit the crime"? After all, life in prison is a punishment that take someone's life away. You can't claim that rape and death are proportional.

        6. How do you justify having hugely disparate punishments for the same crime based on the age of the victim? How does molesting a 17 year old get you life in prison but molesting an 18 year old gets you kicked off the football team?

        [–]ReeferMadness 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        she will serve only a year behind bars, with the rest of the sentence suspended so she can get treatment, say court records

        The headline is literally a lie.

        [–]jet199 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

        What treatment?

        [–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        It doesn't say, but presumably counseling.

        [–]asterias 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

        11???? And only one year in jail? This is madness.

        [–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        And it wasn't one incident. This was going on for what sounds like a year, but the "journalist" is clearly trying to hide the details and minimize the crime. I'm sure if you compare it to other sentences of the same crimes it is grossly disproportionate.

        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

        But later she reportedly admitted “having problems in her marriage and that the victim made her feel good.”

        Damn, she cheated on her husband with an 11yr old.

        [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

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