Elon unmasked, says we need more legal immigration.

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[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

Maybe? It might be great for business if they are being pressured by astroturfed boycotts created by a billionaire funded anti-racist propaganda machine. Either way, corporations and coalitions of corporations can have an agenda that doesnt always maximize immediate or even long term profit. Look at the recent bud light tranny stunt. They didnt put trannies on beer cans to sell more beer. They are pushing an agenda. Your theater isnt casting black Ellsa to sell more tickets.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

The government is key to sustaining all of that.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

Yes, agreed. Our government does very little, if anything to prevent this kind of abuse from big money.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

The problem isn't that the government doesn't do anything. It's that it funds and supports these operations.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

More libertarian nonsense, always trying to blame the government for every corruptive influence corporations have while having the delusion thinking that deregulation will somehow cause multi national corporate interests to suddenly align with national interests. Spengler is right when he says that liberal states do no have a State in the true sense. It is completely controlled by outside influences.

[–]AlphixNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

The government is the big enabler because it is based on a REPRESENTATIVE democracy. Buy the representative, do what you want. Direct democracy prevents this, but the efforts in that direction? NIL.

[–]FreakyFalangistNational Catholicism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

If you think merely giving the responsibility to a just as easily bought out (and by population dynamics in the US, an incredibly Leftwing) electorate is any solution, then I got some waterfront property to sell you in Arizona.

Unless you're advocating for acceleration, then yes Direct Democracy would be the way to go lol.

[–]AlphixNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

No. Direct democracy means you have to buy EVERYBODY. It's not worth it. Buying one politician to sell $100,000,000,000 worth of stuff is worth it. Buying 300,000,000 people isn't.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They still control media and narratives that influence the populations views. It would likely be better than what we have but still mass democracy is not an ideal.

[–]AlphixNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well it's a whole different paradigm, you can't just say ONE THING would be different and ALL THE REST would remain the same. Shit don't work like that.

[–]FreakyFalangistNational Catholicism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Direct Democracy means you only have to buy 51% of the electorate to get what you want. What that means practically in the US is as long as a political group is able to exercise control/influence over urban population centers they'd have full run of the country.

[–]AlphixNational Socialist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

ONLY buying 51% of the population vs buying a dozen politicians. Let me calculate now...

Yeah I think buying a few politicians is cheaper.

Anyway, most direct democracy is localized.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Libertarians would privitize the criminal justice system. Lol.

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[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Such huge and powerful corporations only exist with the aid of the government.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think you've been reading too much libertarian propaganda mate. We can't Ron Paul our way out of this.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yes we can. Without government all their monopolies would come crashing down. Which is why they shill so much for the DNC.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes I think most of us have encountered plenty of the libertarian propaganda. This one is my favorite. https://youtu.be/d0nERTFo-Sk

[–]AlphixNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's "they're private corporations, they can do whatever they want" when billionnaires get to push their agenda, but not so much when it's about enabling Big State and Big Data. The spy chips inside all computers for example. Intel or AMD might go "we're a private corporation and we're not giving the government a backdoor into every single PC that uses our chips". But that never happens...

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

"they're private corporations, they can do whatever they want"

This is why libertarianism just makes things worse. Private corporations aren't on our side and libertarianism seeks to give them freedom to abuse whites.

[–]AlphixNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Absolutely. Libertarianism turns into absolute slavery faster than you can say "Hey!", same as anarcho-capitalism.