Belgium’s House of Representatives recognises Holodomor as genocide of Ukrainians.Debunking the"jews control Belgium"narrative.

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[–]jacques1102[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

"It is an undeniable fact that humanity as a whole would have been uplifted had Germany won WW2."
The claim that nazi germany had huge advantages in science is false.Big example is The Dachau Hypothermia Experiments https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199005173222006 Also you're delusional if you believe that we would be settling on multiple planets by nows if it weren't for those evil jews who should of took their genocide like a champ. "Mass liberation of colonies and support for independence groups." So you're admitting colonialism was bad and independence was good.Odd because i was told decolonizing was horrible for europeans and africans.

The rest of your post is basically"My life sucks so therefore i'll blame other people for why society is bad".You have nothing to really prove that the world would be better under a nazi victory.Even for arguments sake hitler did get rid of jews(whether through genocide or deportation)what makes you think we'd all be living in harmony?I'm sure places like France,eastern europe,etc would all of loved to be under nazi control and in no way would of revolted against them.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The claim that nazi germany had huge advantages in science is false.Big example is The Dachau Hypothermia Experiments

How does your link refute what I said about Germany making massive strives in the Space Race? Do you really believe Germany had no technological firsts/advantages whatsoever?

Maybe this might wake you up. The Germans beat the allies to having the 1st jet powered fighter aircraft. You think that's fake too?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_262

Also you're delusional if you believe that we would be settling on multiple planets by nows if it weren't for those evil jews who should of took their genocide like a champ.

In our current timeline, we've seen world governments waste trillions of dollars on projects or endeavors that go nowhere. Stuff like, the 2003 incursion in Iraq and babysitting the Middle East, the money pumped into welfare programs and affirmative action, corruption scandals in politics. with no accountability. The list goes on.

Basically, it's up to you to convince me how after 1945, the world is somehow more responsible and actually has the best interest of humanity at stake. I'd really like to hear that argument...

Even for arguments sake hitler did get rid of jews(whether through genocide or deportation)what makes you think we'd all be living in harmony? I'm sure places like France,eastern europe,etc would all of loved to be under nazi control and in no way would of revolted against them.

They would get use to it. Especially when they look around and see their neighbor pick up groceries in their flying car, or marvel at how clean the streets are because they're not being flooded with 3rd world immigrants.

By the way, it's funny you bring up Eastern Europe. Life under the Soviet Union and its satellite states was already shit. Eastern Europeans would have been sparred future horrors like Chernobyl or not having to get in line for bread.

[–]jacques1102[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

How is the Messerschmitt (a weapon designed for war) proof that germany was far advanced into the space race?The Nazis investigated rocketry for warfare, and were far off from achieving anything like an ICBM or the Saturn V rocket. This is like saying that we can thank Jenner for the Polio vaccine (though I realize this is also a bit of a stretch in demonstrating that comment's logical failure).
As for your second part,i never said the world was perfect by any means obviously.However,this is another case of"This world is shit so obviously a nazi victory would be so much better".How about you prove that the world would of been better under a nazi victory? As for your last part,nothing more then delusional fantasy with no bases to back it up.BTW i never said life under the soviets was good for eastern europe but look at countries like poland that hate BOTH ideologies and tell me that they would of been fine being under nazi control when the nazi raped and murdered millions of eastern europeans.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How is the Messerschmitt (a weapon designed for war) proof that germany was far advanced into the space race?The Nazis investigated rocketry for warfare, and were far off from achieving anything like an ICBM or the Saturn V rocket.

Wow, you're intentionally being obtuse. "A weapon designed for war" Plenty of civilian inventions were passed down from the military. That's kinda how progress works, you know? Especially when one of them receives a massive budget being funded by the state.

I also didn't say the ME 262 was a space invention. I said it was proof Germany had more advance technology (which you denied).

How about you prove that the world would of been better under a nazi victory?

The Germans would never have passed liberal policies that changed how the world was after 1945. One immediate example: how manufacturing was outsourced to China and was used to kill off jobs at home.

The philosophy of National Socialism would never have promote such behavior, as well as Hitler's ally (Japan) would have also had a huge influence in the area.

BTW i never said life under the soviets was good for eastern europe but look at countries like poland that hate BOTH ideologies and tell me that they would of been fine being under nazi control when the nazi raped and murdered millions of eastern europeans.

Like I said, they would have assimilated easily. Look at the United Kingdom as an example. They're technically 4 separate countries and one of them (Scotland) even had a history of going to war with England. Yet despite their constant threats of wanting to leave the union and even oppressive history, the average Scot and Brit are identical today.