Italian media criticizes US media for suppressing story about the murder of an Italian citizen in New York city by black criminal

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[–]88BitSorelianism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

According to the victims father the investigators told him that there was a racial motive, so in reality it's only people like you who want White people murdered that deny it had a racial motive, just journalist scum doing their thing.

https://www-ilsussidiario-net.translate.goog/news/davide-giri-ucciso-perche-bianco-tutti-zitti-a-sinistra-rampini-svela-lipocrisia/2260974/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

Yes - it was likely a hate crime, but the actual reasons for that racism and hatred go much deeper than the color of the person's skin. Obviously, many on DAR are SOLELY interested in skin color, rather than the other issues.

[–]88BitSorelianism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

When did I say that was caused by pigment in skin? No one said it happened because of pigment existing. As the investigators said and you even acknowledged he did it because he hates White people, a hate crime as you called it. He was forced into a situation where he was in close contact with people who hate him because of his race at bayonet point by the government, that is how this was forced on us, at bayonet point.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

When did I say that was caused by pigment in skin?

because he hates White people

[–]88BitSorelianism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

because he hates White people

Isn't that what a racially motivated hate crime against a White person is?

Yes - it was likely a hate crime

So either you think he did it because he hates White people or you are again arguing in bad faith.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

Really?

In response to the various issues in my comments, your response was that "there was a racial motive".

I replied: "reasons for that racism and hatred go much deeper than the color of the person's skin."

Then you asked: "When did I say that was caused by pigment in skin?" "He did it because he hates White people"

I answered with our comment: "because he hates White people"

Now you're asking: "Isn't that what a racially motivated hate crime against a White person is?"

You are indeed judging people - and the crime in this case - based because of the color of skin, rather than the broader circumstances of the situation. If you want to continue down that path, consider that mass shooters are often "white" folks, and there are other ethnicities to consider for murders.

[–]88BitSorelianism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

Mass Shooters are disproportionately black and Muslim, but I'm sure that isn't what you wanted to talk about you just wanted to change the subject.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

Nope.

Do the math: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shootings_in_the_United_States

[–]88BitSorelianism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Did you even read it?

According to most analyses and studies, the proportion of mass shooters in the United States who are white is slightly less than the proportion of white people in the general population of the US

[–]EuropeanAwakening14 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Per capita and proportionality: the bane of anti-Whites everywhere.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Again - you're picking only the bit you want for a racist narrative, albeit only a "slight" difference, and non-whites include more than 'black and Muslim'. Keep reading:

According to the Associated Press, white men comprise nearly 50 percent of all mass shooters in the US. According to the Center for Inquiry, mass shootings of family members (the most common) are usually carried out by White, middle-aged men.

Public mass shootings of persons unrelated to the shooter, and for a reason not connected with a previous crime (the rarest but most publicized) are committed by men whose racial distribution closely matches that of the nation as a whole. [eg. majority, white]

[–]EuropeanAwakening14 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Ok. Let's do the math.

https://mass-shootings.info/statistics.php?year=2021

https://mass-shootings.info/index.php

Wow, for 2021 non Whites have committed 87% of all known mass shootings. K. Math done.

[1] There are many definitions of "mass shooting" and none is universally accepted. This list was compiled based on the criteria available on :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_2020

So Don't even give us some bullshit about how you don't like how they defined mass shooting or some other weasely shit when you just linked the wiki article on mass shootings.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

That's obviously a racist site that wants to put a black face to almost every shooting in the US, referring to almost very shooting as a mass shooting. It's obviously pushing a narrative of hate. For what purpose, you might ask. Note that the information on that site is not in agreement with the information here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shootings_in_the_United_States

[–]88BitSorelianism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In America, investigators seem quite convinced that the racial motive was at the basis of the homicidal attack

You want to have your cake and eat it too, it can't be a racially motivated murder without animus towards that person's race.

And you try to obfuscate this by saying the pigment in the black persons skin didn't command him to murder the White person as if that is what we are saying a clear straw man.