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[–]NeoRail 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Most people don't care about what Evola, Nietzsche or Marx believed, about the metaphysical idealism-dualism-physicalism debate and the 'hard problem of consciousness', or most of anything else Keith mentions.

"Most people" don't care about politics either and from among those who do, "most people" make zero impact. Politics is not a question of numbers, especially not of numbers at the expense of everything else. All three of the thinkers you mentioned make this very clear for their readers, in different ways.

To win on the macro-level there needs to be a simplification of the message. Avoid speculation. Avoid unsourced claims whenever possible. Engage more with science and less with philosophy.

All of these things have their place in political practice, but that's just half the picture. To simplify a message, first you need to have one. Similarly, philosophy is invaluable if it is done well. Something important that a lot of people miss these days is that science itself is based on and is a form of philosophy. Without understanding the implications of that, you will always be at a disadvantage when trying to use science, because you would be failing to understand the tool that you are trying to use. When people discuss the nature of consciousness, knowledge, epistemology etc. it isn't just something they do for the sake of it, it is done because these things are important and determine the entire content and direction behind the ideas humans rely on to make sense of the world.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

To simplify a message, first you need to have one. Similarly, philosophy is invaluable if it is done well.

Yep. The people who think the alt/dissident right today is 'too big brained' are hilarious. I'd love to see these guys tackling Hegel and Gentile; or Heidegger and Schmitt etc.

The issue is actually the exact opposite, revolutionary nationalists back then actually read the newspapers, attended the speeches, read Mein Kampf and the other 30~ books on the NS reading list etc. The average member of a shirt movement in the 20s and 30s was well educated on politics and his own movement's struggle. The average alt/dissident righter today is just a conservatard that likes to say nigger, the reason we are unable to get anything done is because our ranks are either too stupid or too intellectually lazy to educate themselves and actually try to get anything done.

The /r/BritishNationalism sub got banned but they exemplified this issue. They were all race realist, pro-white, most were jew aware to some extent. But all of them are basically just Churchill worshipping antifa neocon retards. They have successfully adopted the 'simplified' messaging of the alt right IE the form, with none of the substance.

By the way, Stennes from reddit has translated Rudolf Jung's National Socialism book and is giving it away for free if you're interested.

[–]NeoRail 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think that stupidity wouldn't be an issue if there was an organisation with an intelligent strategy directing the efforts of all political forces, but especially today anti-system politics are the most individualist, decentralised and disorganised they have ever been. Consequently any increase in numbers or resources only translates into slightly louder whining.

Thank you for mentioning the translation, I may take a look at it later. It's still hard to believe that most of the National Socialist material is not already translated.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yep, it's a bit of a chicken and egg situation too. This hypothetical organisation can only come to exist once it has some funding, which is going to require many thousands of people to straighten up.

Thank you for mentioning the translation, I may take a look at it later. It's still hard to believe that most of the National Socialist material is not already translated.

Worse yet a lot of it is lost to history too

[–]NeoRail 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Worse yet a lot of it is lost to history too

Do you have anything particular in mind?

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nothing in particular, just random things you see referenced. Half of the reading list from here doesn't exist in English for example, I think a lot of it is lost even in German too.