Australia is planning to have a social credit system

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[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

A modern technological state could use a social credit system to reward people for pro-social behaviors and discourage anti-social ones

I prefer a society where men are able to live with dignity so long as they live an honest life. Not one in which they are herded like animals by fat bureaucrats. I don't give a shit if it's a national socialist state or a communist one.

Modern society and all its factions lack a sense of balance that was common in the pre-industrial age. Yes, you shouldn't have a do as thou wilt society as libertarians envision where it's okay for women to whore themselves on the internet or do coke in the middle of the road. But you also shouldn't have a society where an over-arching state is dictating what you must do with every aspect of your life and determines your ability to travel, work or marry based on your behavior.

Sadly, a lot of people don't understand this. Its either you have to be a hardcore libertarian with legal child prostitutes or you have to simp for North Korea.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This isn't feasible in a modern technological society. Community is not needed due to the complexity, rationalisation etc of society so something needs to fill the role that community did.

People are fat, adulterous etc because there's no social consequence for anti-social or self destructive behaviours. Technology made it so social pressure no longer exists, so it is the responsibility of the state to use technology to reintroduce social guidelines and barriers. Without the reintroduction of normalcy through technological methods people will continue acting in anti-social, self destructive etc ways and the the only other alternative is technological decomplexification which is a pipedream.

It's either a pro-social social credit system, along with attempting to reintroduce community into people's lives through city planning and such. Or people continue being shitty and get worse as technique progresses.

[–]Dippy_Dipshizzle 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Although I think I understand where you are coming from, it is quite clear that you haven't thought it through.

The point is: who gets to set the "social credit" guidelines. If everyone agreed on the same values, then it might work. That will never be the case! Instead, a simple majority would be able dictate its morals onto the rest, with zero protection for minorities. Not my understanding of a vibrant democracy. The only "social credit" system that works is having a set of laws (as we do) and that already has many issues. To broaden that to include general behaviour is the ultimate dystopia which I will fight against in any way I can.