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[–]AidsVictim69 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The argument is the cumulative effect of xenoestrogens in the modern environment. Lots of food stuffs, cooking implements, industrial aerosols, packaging, fragrances, air quality, off-gassing buildings/products, cleaning products, clothing, and even the water supply has xenoestrogens. It accumulates. To fight it you need to analyze all your exposure points and try to bring them down the best you can. Hoppy beers is an exposure point.

I agree with everything you're saying. I just don't think soy and hops in and of themselves are anywhere near as hormone disruptive as most plastic derived xenohormones/hormone disruptors and the focus on them is silly compared to the overall environmental problem. Technically yes they are an exposure point but it really just confuses the public since they end up thinking they can avoid the problem by switching their diet up a bit (in reality almost no one eats enough soy for it to matter anyway and the extra calories from beer are probably much more dangerous than the hops) rather than realizing it's an overall environmental problem.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I just don't think soy and hops in and of themselves are anywhere near as hormone disruptive as most plastic derived xenohormones/hormone disruptors

I can agree with you here. I think we are getting most of the exposure from water and heating/serving food in plastics.

and the focus on them is silly compared to the overall environmental problem.

Maybe but there's a huge group of white people that are going hardcore on these hipster beers (I know, I was one of them) and if you saw the amount of hops going into these drinks (and how frequently they are being consumed) you'd be blown away.

it really just confuses the public since they end up thinking they can avoid the problem by switching their diet up a bit

That's a good point. The public needs to be informed that there are more important areas to focus on if they want to reduce xenoestrogens. There are other good reasons to reduce beer consumption though so I still think it's a good product to attack. In general it's important to understand that a huge chunk of the alt right is also a 'self improvement' styled movement so beer, porn and sportsball all get attacked by our movement because they are all assaults on white male psychology and physiology.

rather than realizing it's an overall environmental problem.

I get your point and I agree. Thanks for clarifying.