George Floyd mural in Ohio destroyed by lightning strike

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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I see that this was posted by a coward who has kept this alt account for 9 months in order to post something cowardly.

Why have you worked so hard to develop this statement that has nothing but hatred and attacks? Think about that for a minute. Moreover, stating facts about racism is not "anti-white", not in the least. That's one of the most idiotic fallacies here. (And this propaganda term originates from some of the Zionist websites supporting extremist anti-US, anti-99% activities and claiming that "anti-white" comments are also anti-semitic. The obvious manipulation here only works with dumbasses who don't understand the fallacy.) I am also not a victim of anything significant. A number of your claims have nothing to do with me. Think for a moment about the time you spent studying an anonymous Saidit user in order to post all of this hatred and idiocy. You need help.

Comments like yours also do not follow the basic rules at Saidit, even if there is a lot of have speech here. DAR was long ago removed from r/all by M7 because it crowds the front page with hate speech posts, which goes against Cloudflare's rules for its websites. Now with 6+ hate speech posts for DAR at the top of r/all on a daily basis, Saidit again resembles portions of 8Chan. This is what Cloudflare thought of 8Chan. I think u/d3rr will not agree with me, but I hope he's thinking about it. Anyone who thinks DAR is good for Saidit's r/all, wants to see Saidit filled with hate speech and posts like yours. It's not what I would want with Saidit, but I also appreciate that 99% of Saiditors appear to agree with everything on DAR, and thus it's appropriately in r/all; Saidit is now essentially DAR. In this context, your response to me is not surprising. But you don't have to try so hard to make a point (especially when it's wrong). Grow up; and stop using alt accounts.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

How can I rightfully kick DAR off of /s/all if they follow the rules? It can't technically be 8chan content because saidit is still not allowing violence promotion or personal insults. What's an open debate site to do? How can saidit be between reddit and 8chan/voat/poal if the people's will, DAR, is not allowed to exist?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I actually agree on these points, though the last comment - relating to the existence of DAR - might be answered by this:

If DAR is in /r/subscribed, instead of r/all, it arguably retains its userbase, but it's also OK on r/all, depending on what Saidit wants of its site. What is interesting to me is that so many of the DAR posts are often at the top of r/all, which of course is an organic aspect of Saidit's users' interests. Not that this is necessarily a problem for most Saiditors, but if Saidit is to grow its userbase, it is unlikely to keep new users who disagree with DAR. And I appreciate that Saidit might not want users who disagree with DAR. But here's the rub: many users at DAR promote hate speech and extremism. This can work against the causes of DAR, when, for example, ane of the manipulations of Zionist and Russian disinformation propaganda is to identify concerns about racism as anti-white. This is meant to polarize the social media discourse about race, as has been Critical Race Theory, another manufactured non-issue that's meant to piss off people on the right. DAR often blindly promotes this hateful agenda by the trolls of the 1%, who are paid to sow dischord. I think M7 understood this form of extremist self-pawnage, per his discussions on Youtube, for which there is a long history. I think hate speech should be allowed, but not the main identity of Saidit, which seems to have developed on much of the top posts of r/all. It's just something worth considering. I am not recommending that DAR be removed from r/all, but that Saidit and DAR should be a bit more self-critical, and consider global trends in social media, in order to evaluate what is promoted here.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Saidit and DAR should be a bit more self-critical, and consider global trends in social media, in order to evaluate what is promoted here

Does this mean that saidit should be less edgy and only talk about safe topics? The global trend of social media seems to be circling the drain while TPTB flushes your ass.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Yes - this is a very important concern. I think Saidit should be edgy. My concern is merely with patterns of extremism and hate speech. These patterns can potentially be questioned by mods, such as duplicate posts on the same extremist report, or news.

(So much on Saidit is against something, or anti- something, rather than for something or promoting a solution to something. Imagine having to live with or near a Saiditor. I wonder, for example, who Saiditors would vote for in the next election. What practical solutions do Saiditors want, I wonder. I've been asked to post this Q at DAR, but I doubt that would be much fun for anyone.)

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Extremism and hate-speech

You do realize this is exactly what the ADL, JIDF and DHS claim.

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It happens on all sides of the political discourse.

The solutions are not at the extremes, nor do they involve hatered.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No, not really. Centrism is merely another way for any radical group, if that group has control or is able to sway public opinion as a means to censorship. ZOG is obviously in control, and in a few years they'll throw people in jail for criticising Zionism and nobody will bat an eye.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's already happened in the UK.

Centrists are difficult to manipulate by those who are puching the extreme agendas. Israel lobbyists &c are pushing an extreme agenda.