RICHARD SPENCER & MARK BRAHMIN | The Decline of Christianity

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[–]Nombre27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I can't say if Christianity is directly responsible for the rise of SJW "Liberalism" (I.E., Communism)

Intersection of the rise of secularism and decline of Christianity perhaps? Swapping out the old things in Christianity for the new things in liberalism (or whatever you want to call it) but keeping the belief system. Supernatural to natural.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Is that why Christianity is all about telling the truth in opposition to society and SJWism is all about consensus and agreed upon lies?

To be honest, Jews want us to be secular and to be nonchristians. For that fact alone, I am more inclined to like Christianity.

[–]Nombre27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Is that why Christianity is all about telling the truth in opposition to society and SJWism is all about consensus and agreed upon lies?

I'm not sure what you mean. Are you saying that Christianity is truth telling while SJWism is lie telling (and hence the latter hasn't replaced the former)? I don't want to be reading into something you don't mean.

but it does not possess the outlook to attack their claims beyond different routes to similar end goals (with the exception of its sexual politics).

Yeah, I'm kind of torn on that. I see the use of forming/joining a group based on Christianity, but I don't believe the supernatural stuff at all, and I'm not sure it's wise to continue to be tethered to Judaism the way Christianity always will be. Best to just divorce entirely, but to what I don't know.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

SJWism is about telling lies. There is no universal truth. It is only subjective, or group consensus. Postmodernism. If you disagree with the masses, then you must be removed. The group will award you for lying.

On the other hand, Christianity is about speaking the truth, even when death awaits you. You will be persecuted for telling the truth but you are obliged to do it anyway. You can never lie and God will punish you if you do so.

but I don't believe the supernatural stuff at all, and I'm not sure it's wise to continue to be tethered to Judaism the way Christianity always will be.

We are in the same boat here.

[–]Nombre27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Okay, thank you for clarifying.

Regarding the contrast (truth telling vs. lie telling), I'm not so sure that's the case, in fact, I view them both as lie telling at least depending on what is being asserted. The universal truth aspect is more of a meta thing to Christianity than it being intrinsic, i.e. it's something they think they're doing/thinking or seek to do/think. I don't think is much different than how SJWs, or most people for that matter, think of themselves. The more you think you're right, the more righteous you feel in your actions.

The group will award you for lying.

I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that many SJWs wholly believe that they are truth-tellers, just as much as Christians believe themselves to be. You're right about the difference between subjective vs. universal.

If there is a difference, it would be the external environment and not the ideologies themselves. The shoe is on the other foot now when it comes to Christians and persecution (Christianity waning/weak/vulnerable).

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

These men said, "Teacher, we know that you are an honest man. We know that you teach the truth about God's way. You are not afraid of what other people think about you. All men are the same to you.

These are the things which you should do: speak the truth to one another; judge with truth and judgment for peace in your gates.

Therefore, laying aside falsehood, speak truth each one of you with his neighbor, for we are members of one another.

He who speaks truth tells what is right, But a false witness, deceit.

He who walks with integrity, and works righteousness, And speaks truth in his heart.

“For my mouth will utter truth; And wickedness is an abomination to my lips.

So have I become your enemy by telling you the truth?

“My words are from the uprightness of my heart, And my lips speak knowledge sincerely.

the truth will set you free

Contrast with SJWism:

Postmodernism challenges all truths and concludes that there is no such thing Postmodernist truth is hence that there is no truth.

https://www.changingminds.org/explanations/critical_theory/concepts/postmodernism_truth.htm

If there is no truth, they get to dictate what the truth is.

I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that many SJWs wholly believe that they are truth-tellers

They are liars and they know that. They are gaslighting you, deceiving you. It is entirely a power play and collectivism. It has nothing to do with being a truth-teller. It is bootlicking, blind faith in authority and so on.
They seem and act as if they are truth-tellers because they themselves do not believe in truth. This is the foundation that they built their "truths" on. "Kneel before me and admit your sin"

If there is a difference, it would be the external environment and not the ideologies themselves.

I think it is a mix.