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[–]somewherenear 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I am honestly surprised by Alan Keyes intelligence. He must be a 1-in-a-million case for Africans. Obama, whom I consider to be quite smart, got schooled by Alan Keyes in this debate; and I suspect, any subsequent one. The main reason he lost by 43 points in the race is due to the mainstream mindset in America to avoid even considering lending any support to someone with a slightly differing ideological standpoint--no matter how valid it is. Unfortunate. I greatly recommend for others to watch the whole thing.

[–]Ethnosomniator 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yup. He's probably terrible at sports, too. I hope he fathered a good number of children and is a role model for the talented tenth of his race.

[–]Girondin 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

He addressed a obvious fallacy common during the gay marriage debate. Conflating the general with particular: This was a favorite tactic of theirs, somehow if you support a heterosexual reproductive marriage at a institutional level then every particular case has to conform to your standard (e.g old people marrying, infertile people marrying or maybe intersex have to be banned), it's obviously dumb. No one designs or governs institutions in this autistic way.

It seems pretty obvious that a state should privilege optimal conditions for child development.

I don't remember the gay marriage debate that well when it happened since I never cared much about it. I remember the common arguments were kinda dumb, like biblical defense (which can't be used to establish law in a secular state, also massive rise in irreligion), or it somehow personally threatened their marriage (e.g Rush Limbaugh), though many who did believe that said also it would bring about a massive change in our language, imposing gender neutral language which they were 100% right on, "SO / significant other", "latinx", "folks", "state your pronouns" are now common words in our vocabulary (maybe not latinx, but a lot of companies, US departments and NGO use it).

Chirstopher Caldwell in "age of entitlement" gives a lot of history of the acceptance of gay marriage, here is a quote (with some annotation)

Reuters discovered in 2014 that of the country’s 200 largest law firms, 30 were representing lawsuits against state Defense of Marriage acts. Not one was defending these laws. The gay rights activist and litigator (((Roberta Kaplan))) worked pro bono on behalf of (((Edith Windsor)))―a coup, because it permitted Windsor to tap the vast paralegal and social resources of Kaplan’s firm, (((Paul, Weiss))). Kaplan’s heavily subsidized, expertly staffed machine of constitutional revision was fully armed to do battle against . . . nothing.

jewish leaders drove gay marriage - Joe Biden

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He addressed a obvious fallacy common during the gay marriage debate. Conflating the general with particular: This was a favorite tactic of theirs, somehow if you support a heterosexual reproductive marriage at a institutional level then every particular case has to conform to your standard (e.g old people marrying, infertile people marrying or maybe intersex have to be banned), it's obviously dumb. No one designs or governs institutions in this autistic way.

Colloquially known as whataboutism

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Do you think the interviewer actually doesn't get it or is intentionally acting like he's retarded? I could never humiliate myself like this in front of potentially millions of people.

[–]president_camacho 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In order to work in modern day American media one is expected to humiliate themselves in this way. Being disingenuous is a job requirement.

[–]SaidOverRed 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ah that was a breath of fresh air, back before clownworld.

But still its a 1v2 where the moderator yells tries to convince one of the participants to the obvious position he's shilling, just like that Chris Wallace leftist at Fox interrupting during the presidential debates last go around.

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    [–]somewherenear 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

    It really doesn't affect anyone except maybe the children the gay couples adopt and the taxes the state receives.

    Yeah, those are totally minor issues. Who cares about children being molested, raped, and abused by sodomists for their pleasure, amiright?

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      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

      Oh yeah because demented raging psychos of other races do not cause any trouble. Right?

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        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

        So when a black dude wants to rape your kids, that's none of your concern because you are a white nationalist. Got it. Anybody who has a few neurons can see that CREATING demented criminals is a bad idea. Yes, even if they are of any shade or color.

        [–]SaidOverRed 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

        Why use logic when you can have 3rd wave feminists push for the up-ending of society to make them feel better!?

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          [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

          Exactly. Conservatives lost the frame game (most likely on purpose). They should have made the case that gay marriage is an attack on natalism, public health, youth innocence, traditional values, etc. The left managed to make the gays the victim and once you've managed to turn a group into a victim you can leverage the genetic dispositions of millions of normie whites who have a sense of fair play and empathy towards the underdog. That's why Jews do everything in their power to keep their foot soldier minions hidden as victims. On the dissident right we have the same pre-disposition to fair play and honor but we've seen through the gambit.

          [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          It is this sense of fair play and honor that lost us WW2. It needs to evolve to an even higher level: the level where we still hold to these values dearly, but UNDERSTAND and COUNT ON THE FACT THAT other peoples don't play by these rules. This is the one mistake I feel the great Adolf committed. He believed being honorable was enough. It CAN be enough if you adjust for foreign (mostly Jewish back then) influence that goes contrary to Aryan ideals.

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            [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

            Not sure why you have to bring jews into this

            Lol. Ok. Are you being serious? Jews are at the forefront of feminist and LGBT rights groups. Jews use these groups against the white populace to change culture, extract wealth and reduce white birth rates. This is standard JQ stuff.

            No, people that are DR score higher on dark triad traits than anywhere else on the political spectrum,

            You're confusing the alt right with neo reactionaries. Granted they were like a proto alt right but the dissident right today has a variety of personality cluster types. I'm a former liberal that scores very high on empathy on personality tests and I know a lot of former liberals that are alt right/dissident right. It's ok if we don't agree on this though. It's really not easy to get demographic and personality data on a group that's so suppressed by the mainstream.

            This shouldn't be seen as a bad thing

            If it were true I wouldn't see it as a bad thing. Dark Triad types have value. Especially in statecraft which all successful nations must engage in.

            This shouldn't be seen as a bad thing, being the least honorable means you are more likely to win.

            I'm aware that psychopaths and low honor types exist but they should never be treated as an ideal to aspire too or a legit political group. They should also be treated as extremely dangerous if they collectivize (i.e. Jews). You don't have to be a dark triad type to accept alt right suppositions. In fact alt right ideals are the clearly moral and natural position. High empathy types can easily be converted to our side when they are shown that the modern world is warped, demonic and socially engineered with the goal of building a neo caste system.

            being the least honorable means you are more likely to win.

            Disagree.

            Simply look at jews.

            Yes. In some ways Jews are winning. However, the war for the survival of the european blood lines and european culture is far from lost.

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              [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

              And if it wasn't them it would have been a white person no doubt

              Jews are doing what they are doing because they are taping into the ethnocentrism of their tribe. A random white person wouldn't be able to do that.

              and are somewhat of a narcissist from what I can tell.

              How is pointing out the ethnic warfare that Jews are engaging in against whites narcissism on my part?

              and it's definitely not an empathetic view on the world,

              Again, how is making an observation about racial tension and identity politics low empathy? Are the civilians that called in Japanese dive bombers attacking ships in Pearl Harbor low empathy narcissists?

              Alt right suppositions are accepted by two types of people: Narcissists and those that truly hold facts and logic above all else.

              Weird overly generalized statement.

              morality is subjective.

              It's not but this is a more complicated and nuanced topic.

              I doubt high empathy people can be converted unless they are a narcissist, which is surprisingly not uncommon.

              I don't really understand what you are trying to say here. These terms are quite broad and easy to bend and abuse. Narcissism is quite common in the modern world but high empathy is not. Most of the human race is not high empathy. It's a trait more common to whites. Whites are easily converted to white nationalism and do it in droves when the conditions are right and a leader emerges.

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                [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                Yeah, because they are doing what they believe needs to be done for their survival

                Jews justify what they do because they are incredibly neurotic. They can't feel safe unless they are in extreme dominance. Calling it survival is a stretch. In fact their unquenchable thirst for control and dominance all but assures they will be forced into survival scenarios. Authors of their own misery.

                because they are slightly smarter than white people.

                Debatable. Ashkenazim are on par with white IQ but not so much for Sephardi or Mizrahi.

                https://saidit.net/s/runebooks/comments/1v8a/ashkenazi_iq_myth_or_reality_anon/

                Jewish IQ is also lopsided in the verbal IQ department. Which is why they make miserable engineers and artists.

                But what I'm saying in regards to this, is that the main reason lgbt policies have passed is due to the empathy of white people.

                An empathy that has been exploited with a lot of time and expense. Saying the whites would have just naturally gravitated to drag queen story hour and Desmond is Amazing public lap dances is a comically stupid take.

                Most white people are libertarians or liberals at heart.

                White people are capable of surviving and thriving under almost any political system. They are adaptable. Most K selected races are adaptable due to how they approach the breeding process.

                you literally say you believe that non white groups that survived this supposed extinction event you believe in, were slave castes in the pre extinction event world

                It's absolutely just a speculation. I don't have some type of hard-on for a ancient or neo caste systems if that's what you're implying. I do know that modern academia is compromised by people that have a atavistic hate towards Europeans. This has caused me to look outside of academia for sociological, and archaeological data and theories. Any group that goes against the mainstream is destroyed up to and including governments and nations. That should tell you something about the conclusions state approved historians are coming too. It's important to note that when I'm talking about antediluvian history this is a LONG time ago and these people not Europeans they are proto proto Europeans.

                This was not what your post was about.

                That's exactly what my post was about. I'm trying to sound the alarm that modern Jews are attempting to build a control grid as a forerunner to a neo slave state (and they are closer than they have ever been in the past). I oppose slavery done by whites or Jews or other groups and you should too. Ken O'Keefe did a nice summary on the pro war nature of the ruling class. Unfortunately everytime I upload the video is gets scrubbed from the internet so I can't really share it with you.

                This is clearly narcissistic behavior and an attempt to paint whites as grandeur.

                These people are my ancestors but they are very far removed from what modern man has become. Having interest and forming speculations about your genetic past is not narcissism. If there's evidence that my ancestors were giants that lived long lives and at one point controlled the earth I'm simply stating my interest in learning about those people. If my ancestors were short cliff dwelling people that controlled nothing I'd be just as interested in learning about those folks as well.

                This is not only some real stupid shit, but insanely narcissistic.

                How is pre flood history 'stupid shit' there's a lot of evidence of pre flood society. Evidence that governments all around the world in coordination with ISIS and other groups are destroying. Have you seen all the reports of giant finds in north america? Have you looked into the mound builders? Have you looked at evidence of ancient machines, gears and super advanced building techniques? Have you looked at all the evidence of the flood? Evidence that goes across the disciplines.

                If you have an alt right world view, you are either looking at the world logically to solve problems in the best and most honest way, or you are an ethnonarcissist, and it's clear to me that you are more of the latter.

                This is a false dichotomy. People get into race realism and ethnic pride/research for a variety of reasons. Ethnic/racial/tribal/national pride is the default of all humans through all of recorded history. Your attempts to pathologize and stigmitize my love for my race will be ineffective.

                If you believe morality is not subjective, you are just flat out wrong

                Morality is not subjective. This is a religious topic though and I doubt we are going to find much common ground here so It's ok if we either skip talking about it or you should make a new thread so we can focus in on what's actually being being debated. I think same Harris and Jordan Peterson had two 2 hours fruitless lectures about this topic and I doubt you and I are going to broker any new compromises.

                This is simply wrong, higher empathy people are found in leftist circles

                And which racial groups even allow leftist circles to exist in the first place? Culture is downstream from race.

                I know and agree that high empathy is mostly found in white people, which is why I'm saying that your pipe dream of mass converting people to white nationalism is not likely ever going to happen

                If it's a 'pipe dream' than why do Jews and their progressive minions continue to double down on social engineering, lawfare, demoralization and mind control? If what we are doing is ineffective why are so many resources devoted to studying and counteracting us? In fact we already have more than enough whites converted to our positions. You only need a share of the whole. As long as that share is working as an ethnic team. You reveal your lack of understanding of honor culture common among fascist/nationalist minded whites. We don't want to save everyone. We don't think all people (including whites) have value. Value comes from race but also a whole host of other traits and deeds. Whites have undergone a constant breeding regime where low value and low honor types are removed. Criminals removed. Non contributors reduced in stature. This anti fragility created strength. We as pro whites do not just want to survive we want to thrive, explore and push boundaries.

                When have white people ever been easily converted to white nationalism?

                They haven't needed too. They've existed in sub groups and never been forced to justify their collective existence by a hostile foreign ruling elites.

                Even modern data destroys your myth when you realize whites, who are the most empathetic, are also the least likely to identify with their race.

                Other studies show that there's no quicker way for a white person to racialize than to be presented with evidence that they are under threat of genocide. White empathy and lack of racialism is an affect of white isolation from the natural ethnic tension all around them. Whites that live closer to blacks and Hispanics for long periods are often redpilled and racialized. The siloed nature of modern capitalism has created a brief restbit from the need of whites to ethnically collectivize and it won't last much longer as whites start noticing their little worlds collapsing from foreigners, anti whites and cultural marxists.

                [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

                You have no idea what you are talking about. You sound like a low-brow neo-nazi with some edumacation. High empathy people are the root of the national socialist movement. Ever listened to Hitler?

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                  [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

                  Because the NEO in neo-nazi refers to a modern and degenerate form of the original ideology. Skinheads are just dumbasses who like to use visible racial difference for their pent-up aggression, instead of using their brains to realize the real enemy of white people is not black, or brown, or whatever visible color. The jew looks white, yet is the worst enemy the white race has ever had.

                  Also, you speak of Hitler as "the exception" but in fact his speeches were mostly about standing up for what is right, and that is what the original National Socialists were all about. Moral rigtheousness.

                  [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

                  Not sure why you have to bring jews into this. I really don't like jews, but even if there were no jews around, gays would still cry about not being able to get married, and whites being as empathetic as we are, would fight for their right to get married.

                  https://apnews.com/article/974f8e9179014185a6f1d455005539af

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                    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                    The ill faith dripping from your posts paints you a member of a certain tribe.

                    Guys, we have a foreign agent.

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                      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                      Yep, sounds exactly like one. Keep going, rabbi. We are listening.

                      [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                      Jews are brought into this because THEY ARE THE ONES pushing the gay agenda, just as they were the ones who started the trend of women smoking in the 1920s, and then feminism in the 60s, and so on, and so forth. They are the cancer of white society. You can't EVER ignore them.

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                        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                        No, gay "equality" would not have been pushed by whites in the absence of jewish corruption for one good reason: MORALITY. Gays were always seen by whites as the degenerates they are. Even gays themselves know they are degenerates, deep down, which is why they have those reactionary "pride" marches. They're fighting their inner destitution by outwardly demonstrating the contrary.

                        And you ARE ignoring them when you state that you "don't know why jews are being brought into this". In your mind, they were not part of the picture about the mainstreaming and normalizing of the homosexual degeneracy. Therefore you are ill-informed or trying to obfuscate. Either way, discussing with you is not worth the effort.

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                        It affects the social fabric as a whole and is a trojan horse for further degeneracy. The Great Adolf Hitler himself railed against this kind of degeneracy and with good reason. Degenerates ... degenerate. Allowing them to marry gives them legitimacy and leads to further worsening of our moral, organized, properly straight civilization.

                        In this case, it has clearly led to jews dressing up as overdone women to teach degeneracy to kindergarten children.

                        What's hard to understand about this???

                        [–]DisgustResponse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                        How does the health and wellbeing of society affect you in anyway? Mind your own biz.

                        [–]Blackbrownfreestuff 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                        Interesting