Why are the elites so desperate to institute a police state?

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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

It is possible we are already in a 1984 esque situation, where tiny "rogue" states are being gobbled up under the guise of these three "opposing" forces. In fact, knowing that 1984 was written by an occultic-fuck, it should be clear that was a glimpse at a future situation, probably the Cold War, which wasn't what it seemed, and never really ended. It's a cold war between these three infiltrated groups and all of the tiny states who somehow were still free coming into the 20th century.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

This goes into real schizo territory that I can't really navigate. I look at the facts and how they act. So far, the US is the only regime that looks like pinnacle of evil

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

There are a lot of things people call facts that aren't facts. Like whatever it is you seem to be looking to. China doesn't have a regime of evil? Really? Israel doesn't? These are the pinnacle, along with the US, and a few others. I can never tell about Russia if they are in it for themselves or what.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

How is China more evil than the US?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I would say equally as evil.

[–]Node 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Your question "misrepresents" what he said.

Even so, how can that even be a real question?

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

There's no such thing as "evil".

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

From a pragmatic and rhetorical standpoint, I'd define evil as anyone that opposes the existence of homogenous white homelands. No need to get entangled in fedora-tier arguments about mysticism and spirituality. Those that want my people to go extinct may as well be satan himself.

[–]Minedwe 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Bull. Things that are, to normal, civilized people, absolutely reprehensible and disgusting, are evil. Evil as an adjective trait is the quality of committing such acts, and Evil as a noun can refer collectively to the former and the latter, or to someone so horrible they are the personification of such negative qualities.

Jews are evil. They rape children, they want to take over the world and enslave everyone else. They worship Satan. They are quite possibly the easiest way to describe and exemplify evil.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I have no time for moral relativity.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

knowing that 1984 was written by an occultic-fuck

You're not thinking of Huxley?

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Both of them, if you wanna get down to it.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Orwell was an 'occultick fuck'?

Where did you get that from?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

From him.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I've never heard that. Can you show me where he talks about that?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Not as in from some words that he spoke. I meant as in from the research I've done on him and those who he knew/supported. I don't save any links that have anything to do with their occult. That stuff is nasty to me.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I've read many of his books and essays and there absolutely zero indication of any of that in what I've read. In fact he strikes as a very practical type much more concerned with lived reality than mystic garbage.

Maybe you've just been reading fucking cranks who don't know their ass from their elbow.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I have actually been reading too many cranks these days, but none of them talked about him. Plus, I know how to subject myself to new information and hear it out without becoming a hardcore supporter of it. If anyone can change my mind, they can surely try, and I will concede defeat if it actually occurs.

I don't think I mentioned anything about other books or essays he may have written. I don't have much of a use in an author if he lacks anything pure or redeeming in one of his books, and 1984 didn't supply any of that. I'm glad I read that book, but I won't touch anything else by him for the foreseeable future.