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[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Nick won't because his livelihood hinges on him bringing in support for the GOP; the NJP is its own party and is opposed to liberalism which includes the GOP. Nick also has a long history of attacking every nationalist organisation and figure in America, I can't think of any dissident figure or group he hasn't done this to so I don't think there's much hope of him ever getting off the 'say edgy things but still support the establishment' train.

NJP are good guys with the right ideas, it remains to be seen whether they end up making a good organisation or not depending on their actions and ability to get shit done. A lot of the leadership have past experience with successful and unsuccessful organisations in the past so I assume they'll be the best thing we have in America soon enough. Its leadership is mostly TRS guys who up to now have displayed great OpSec unlike other groups we've seen recently like Patrick Casey's AIM which was a total joke. They also have ex-TWP guys who seem to have learned some lessons about dressing goofily and LARPing. Overall they seem to have a good foundation and core of high quality leadership but they've not really done anything yet apart from a handful of speeches.

If all goes to plan it seems like Striker is trying to court the Proud Boys to bring them over to us ideologically which would give us a large street presence of guys willing to get in the streets and even fight for our ideals; it would also give our guys who are too scared to get in the streets more confidence with more numbers around us, a big concern has always been muh doxing and saying we don't have enough redpilled people yet. If Striker does successfully bring Proud Boy leadership to our side, thus bringing a large chunk of their supporters to NJP and Third Positionist ideas we would quickly have a nascent populist street movement. Many of the Proud Boys aren't very ideological or are already ourguys but many of them are ideological with dumb boomer lolbert ideas and such so it's up in the air whether this can materialise into anything good for them. Other than that it's not really clear what direction they're trying to take, they haven't formed a Patriot Front or AIM type group that propagandises and tries to recruit nor have they begun doing civic work like nationalists in Europe do or TWP did in America. As I said it remains to be seen what they get up to, I'm hoping they do start doing on the ground populist stuff rather than just being a party with no presence. There are already WN groups like that that no one has heard of, for example Kevin MacDonald's one.

The best case scenario is existing groups like Patriot Front and Proud Boys somewhat merge and we end up with a large street movement active in every state that is spreading propaganda, doing civic work and is willing to get out into the streets. It's doubtful that this happens though, if history of nationalist movements has taught us anything it's that ego and infighting always supersedes common goals, brotherhood and the sanctity of shared struggle.

[–]oneinchterror 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Did you see the alleged statement(s) from Proud Boys leadership the other day? What do you make of that? Seemed like an amazing positive development but many were questioning its provenance/authenticity and then the story kinda disappeared.

Also, do you know if Mike and Striker plan to return to Twitter anytime soon?

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Did you see the alleged statement(s) from Proud Boys leadership the other day? What do you make of that? Seemed like an amazing positive development but many were questioning its provenance/authenticity and then the story kinda disappeared.

Yeah it was Kyle Chapman/Based Stickman who said that, he made his own splinter of Proud Boys called Proud Goys. He was already basically the leader of the serious Proud Boys who actually did the fighting and training and such he called them the Order of Alt Knights or something, the rest who weren't part of this group of Proud Boys he said was filled with tokens, women, homosexuals and other people who would run away from antifa and that kind of thing. If it's true that the more hardcore guys are pretty much loyal to him this could be a great development in terms of bringing them over to serious dissident politics, I guess we'll see soon enough how it shapes up.

Also, do you know if Mike and Striker plan to return to Twitter anytime soon?

Haven't listened to Strike and Mike for a couple weeks so no idea. Last I knew they're both just on Parler and Striker has telegram

[–]MATKINS 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm curious to see what will happen to Nick Fuentes and his AF movement post-Trump. The Stop the Steal bullshit is going to fail.

I don't dislike Nick, but I've always found his unconditional support and loyalty to Trump weird, it seems his platform included putting a lot of stock in 'Trusting the Plan' and this idea that Trump is secretly based. I don't think it's an act or a grift, the kid seems damn near emotional about Trump. His followers are surely going to be blackpilled next year when they come to the realisation that Trump's gone and there was no "plan" after all. I don't think Trump is going to run again in 2024, I think he's very much a one-hit wonder (or blunder, rather).

[–]nickko[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I thought the proud boys were just CivNats? One of their leaders is a black guy right?

"Patriot Front and Proud Boys"

I am under the impression these guys are just hijacked by the Fed. I thought the proud boys were against all "racism"

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The official Proud Boys line is the gay civnat shit but many of the members aren't ideological homos, they're just working and middle class lads who like beating the shit out of faggot lefties, drinking with the boys etc. As I mentioned in another comment 'Based Stickman' (who was the leader of the Order of Alt Knights which was basically Proud Boys' fight club) has created a splinter group called Proud Goys which according to him has the serious members without the gays, token minorities, women etc that were in the Proud Boys that didn't actually do any of the cool shit.

Patriot Front is an explicitly racialist organisation for white Americans.