How can you hate someone for being gay or a different skin color?

submitted by ayotollahsinIran from (self.debatealtright)

I genuinely don’t know how you can hate them for being different. Or the people who are against racism but pro homophobia and vise versa. It’s just hating someone for the sake of them being different.

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[–]antireddit 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

ayotollahsinIran.... How can you hate the Palestinians and genocide and ethnically cleanse them just for not being Jewish? You are just hating them for being different.

[–]ayotollahsinIran[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I do not at all, fuck Israel for their theft and apartheid esque oppression of the Palestinian people.

[–]antireddit 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Do you go to Jewish and Israel forums and ask them why they hate Palestinians and Arabs for just being different?

[–]ayotollahsinIran[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

no, I don't even know any Jewish forums.

[–]antireddit 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Reddit is full of them.

[–]SoylentCapitalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

More like leading them, but the people themselves and the vast majority of subreddits are full of white liberals.

[–]antireddit 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's a surprising bit of candor from you. I was referring to subs specifically dealing with Judaism, Israel, neoconservatism, the ADL and various other overtly Jewish lobby groups and organizations, all of which have an extensive number of subs with those subjects in the title.

If he attempted to post such questions there the post would be instantly deleted and he would be banned. 99% of the time. If he kept it up he might even wind up IP banned from reddit as a whole.

[–]SoylentCapitalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree about r/Judaism as I was banned myself for mentioning Jewish IQ. I do think it's almost impossible to discuss these important topics related to Jews on Reddit with them directly unless you're entirely with them.

[–]arainynightinskyrim 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

We don't hate non whites, we just want them out of our countries, simple.

[–]DisastrousDepth14Race comes first 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

How racist of you for wanting your people to exist! How racist of you for having self respect! How racist of you for not bowing down! How racist of you for wanting to reclaim your ancestral homeland! How racist of you...

Remember, other races can hate you but they cannot be racist towards you because one cannot be racist towards white people, just "prejudiced" and meanwhile if any one of us finally snaps, he/she is racist. Remember that media and "minority groups" can openly hate and vilify you but you must shut up and take all of it. Don't even utter a word.

And then bastards like this one have the balls to ask us why we "hate" them ignoring the fact that we are the ones that are hated. Fortunately, I have a good feeling that we'll not tolerate them for long. We can all see where this is heading.

[–]deAccount 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It’s nature. Humans are tribal beings, and it isn’t just skin color, it’s ethnicity. Take a look at black Twitter, there’s endless amounts of hatred toward whites. On this very sub, take a look at the video that a black man posted onto Instagram of him murdering an old white man with a brick, with tons of his friends (all black) cheering in the background. He captioned it with #whitelivesdontmatter. I’d bet that you only hate racial nationalism when it’s white nationalism.

[–]ayotollahsinIran[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

How would that be on instagram?

[–]deAccount 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This post shows that someone had reported it, and Instagram’s admins explicitly stated that it doesn’t violate policy.

He deleted it later (presumably to avoid law enforcement), but it remains here.

Most people never heard of this, because zero national media outlets reported on it. Now ask yourself what would’ve happened if the races were reversed.

[–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Why do you assume we just "hate" all non-whites? Hate is generally a very personal emotion. "Hatred" is like a childish hollywood caricature of how most of us actually feel about race

It's hard to hate someone because of circumstances of their birth. It's also hard to hate somone who lives in a country far away who you've never met or spoken to. Even if you knew about racial differences in something like IQ, in a sane world most white people would never come into contact with them and recognize these differences as part of human history and a mere curiosity

The reason racial animosity exists is because races have been unnaturally forced together over the last 300 years for a variety of reasons. Because for instance, whites and blacks have different levels of IQ, of aggression, of impulse control etc. We have instinctually different values and expectations and the other race consistently violates these expectations. We simply just shouldn't share a society and live in separate areas/states

Of course there are some "good" blacks or what have you, and you should in practice treat everyone as ~individuals~ - but acknowledging the naxalt does nothing to change the broader implications of a multiracial society.

There's also the innate, tribalistic aspect - you are biologically predisposed to like your people, and not like out-groups. Some degree of racism is inevitable on a biological level

[–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Also, adding on b/c just noticed this post also mentions gays -

First, the majority of literature supports the notion that homosexuality is about 50/50 heritable/environmental. So while some people are probably "born gay" others are more or less recruited and this number could be reduced. So that's not an equivalent to something like race. Also, it's inevitable that some people will be gay in our ideal state (or whatever) and just because homosexuality is (rightfully) repressed doesn't mean these people will be persecuted. Think 1950/60's-era attitudes

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm against transgenderism and the 100 genders/non-binary queer/drag queen story hour type nonsense that's pushed by the LGBTQXYZ lobby, but I don't have a problem with most homosexuals. My brother is gay, I have gay and lesbian friends. It's a fact of life that a small percentage of the population simply aren't attracted to the opposite sex and it does absolutely no one any good to suppress it.

In a hypothetical ethnostate, I wouldn't care about openly gay people living with their partners or whatever, or having "gay villages" in small areas of the cities. I'd rather that degeneracy like promiscuity was culturally shamed and oversexualisation simply banned. I do not identify as a "conservative" or larp as being a "traditionalist", btw. I know we're not going back to the 19th century or 1930s/40s/50s. There were things that happened back then which were quite inhumane and destructive, like the fate of Alan Turing, a British homosexual who contributed a lot to the field of computer science.

As for people of other races, I don't hate any individual for their race. I just recognise that multiracial and multicultural societies don't work in the long-run. Ingroup preference and hostility to outgroups (tribalism in other words) is a strong aspect of human nature and the biological/social differences between the races will mean there will never be 'equality'. Midwit conservatives often whine about black people getting triggered when a black is killed by a white cop but don't give a shit when blacks slaughter other blacks on a daily basis. I understand why many black people view interracial killings as worse, even though they're statistically rare, because it's by a member of an outgroup.

I also honestly feel this way. I hate white paedophiles, for example, they should certainly be castrated or hanged, but I am more disgusted and angered when non-white men abuse white children. The Pakistani rape gangs in England for example, who raped and abused thousands of English girls. I hate them even more than any white sex offenders. Call it "irrational" if you like, but many people of all races feel the same way, deep down.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

  1. All thought is of demonic origin.
  2. Thought precedes and causes feelings.
  3. Feelings often provoke action.

This whole shit show called "Life on Earth" is a manifestation of demonic forces disguising as "myself" in the inner life of humans and pupeteering them into whatever representation of hell they desire. It's working.

You know the saying "haters gonna hate"? Yeah if you can be brought to hatred, you will be. The only thing man can legitimately hate is these demonic forces taking over ... EVERYBODY.

[–]DisastrousDepth14Race comes first 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, let's allow them all to come over here and turn ourselves into minority in our own ancestral homeland. By "racism", don't you mean the people who want to make sure that their people exist and not perish. Those "different" people do not belong here and we don't need them here, apart from some treacherous elites.

By the way, why don't you mention the anti white sentiments among non whites and traitors these days? They keep on attacking us verbally and physically. What do you expect? Of course, an anti white like you would love to see us bend over but guess what, BLM rallies have only increased racial awareness among our people. I say, let it go on, until we snap. Nobody wants any sorts of violence but I guess we all can see where this is going.

Next time you wonder why we "hate" (us having self respect is hate to you people), ask who is provoking us. Go ask black groups who genuinely hate us. I bet you won't. We are just reacting to their actions. Newton's third law of motion in play.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't hate them. I just don't want them in our countries.

[–]poopenbocken 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Who says that anyone on the far right hates homosexuals or people of a different race? There's a huge difference between believing that certain people are not optimal for a healthy society, and then actually hating them. I don't hate people for being gay or non-white. I hate the people trying to make homosexuality normal and accepted, and I hate the people who are using non-whites as an invasive force to destroy white homogeneity

[–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

For the billionth time, we don't hate people for their skin color, their skin color tells about the evolutionary path their ancestors had leading to a whole host of phenotypes like personality, impulse control, IQ, etc. We could just as easily discriminate based on hair and get the same results. e.g. kinky haired people have low IQ and tend to be more violent.

[–]asterias 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hate? Many gays hate other people for being sexually normal. As for skin color, nobody hates anyone else for race issues if everyone lives peacefully in his own country instead of trying to invade other countries.

[–]AFutureConcern 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I will reiterate once again, because most people are blissfully unaware of this point:

"Hate speech" and hatred are completely separate, unrelated things. We here engage in "hate speech", and what emotions we are feeling are irrelevant to that classification. I don't hate gays or blacks, for example. (It's of course easy to hate those who falsely accuse you of being full of hatred, and therein lies the Kafka trap).

"Hate speech" refers to anti-egalitarian speech, especially speech that is collectivist rather than individualist. So, for example, claiming that black men are more violent and that they are therefore responsible for violence in America counts as "hate speech" - even though it is true that despite making up only 6% of the population, black men commit around 50% of homicides.

Here are some examples to give you an idea of the distinction between "hate speech" and hatred:

"Hate speech" (but not hatred):

  • "Black men are more violent than white men"
  • "Women are more neurotic on average than men"
  • "Jews are massively over-represented in positions of power"
  • "Acceptance of homosexuality leads to further moral degeneracy and the destruction of society"
  • "IQ differs between the races and explains much of the variance in outcomes"

Hatred (but not "hate speech"):

  • "I fucking hate you with every fiber of my being and I want you to die"
  • "Punch fascists. Actually no - I hate them so much we should just genocide the lot of them."
  • "I hate all people equally. I hate every last person on the planet, every bird, every beast, every tree and every rock. Hatred constitutes my very being."
  • "I hate anyone who likes Marvel comic book movies."

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    [–]ayotollahsinIran[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    What answer do you have to my question?

    [–]antireddit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Why do you have a creepy name referencing Iran, a country Jewish neocons like you have been trying to get us to attack? It's just plain weird dude.

    [–]antireddit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Why wont you answer our questions?

    [–]ayotollahsinIran[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It's in reference to a song I heard setting up my account.

    [–]meatball4u 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Because their mentality and culture is contagious. It spreads to us and affects our mental state or culture, which are essential for what I call generativity. Generativity is everything that passes our legacies on, including having children and producing what civilization needs to continue thriving. Different evolutionary strategies are needed to survive in different parts of the globe, and thus different cultures formed. Most black people would have died if they had suddenly migrated to Europe and retained their culture and mentalities of hot Africa. Likewise, many whites might struggle in Africa because you can get away with being more violent towards your ingroup there and many whites are less violence minded and would get killed by aggressive whites.

    Have you heard of Abigail Shrier? She writes and speaks often about how transgenderism is contagious and is spreading among young girls. I think the same contagious effect happens with gay or bi people too, but research is censored

    [–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    "We don't hate them, we just want nothing to do with them, want them banned from whatever country we live in, and consider ourselves entitled to persecute them."