Refuting a big Cope: Deplatforming is extremely effective and Bitchute is a dead end

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[–]Wrangel 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

1) I am old enough to remember pre internet days when I could at best hand out 400 fliers in mailboxes in a day of which the vast majority were never read. Thousands of views for one days work when there is a lot more content in a video than on a flier is still a huge upgrade compared to 15 years ago.

2) What works best is bigger platforms such as counter-currents, unz.com and therightstuff. Large portal sites with a lot of new content is what works best, especially news sites. Counter-currents seems to be doing really well with traffic.

3) The idea that you could make a revolution on youtube and facebook was wildly naive. No elite ever has given a platform for someone who wants to overthrow it. Tsarist Russia didn't allow communist revolutionaries to speak freely. If you lived in the Soviet union as a dissident you couldn't write for pravda. The suppression of the alt right is if anything exceptionally mild. Pol Pot lost many of his early friends long before he gained power. Revolutions are violently suppressed and have always been violent supressed. Thinking the enemy was going to give us a platform and then hand over power when we present better arguments is not realistic. We know when we actually are close to getting power and that is when the drone strikes start. They aren't going to hand over power, we are going to have to put ourselves in power. That doesn't mean violence, the Iranian revolution was peaceful from the revolutionaires standpoint but hundreds were killed by the state. I absolutely don't support violence but I understand that we will be subjected to it and that we are going to have to take power. Revolutions don't require internet. We don't get very far with funny memes, it is passive support. 100k people liked your video and then what?

What works is building organizations and political groups IRL. IRL organizing is difficult to shut down and has worked effectively in the past. what is needed is grass roots organizing, not twitter accounts. Information is far freer in the west today than it was in the Soviet union and that didn't stop polish workers from revolting peacefully against the system.

[–]AFutureConcern 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I like your optimism. The only thing I'd say is that the enemy propaganda is so much easier to produce as well. So I don't think that gives us an advantage. What it does mean is that people are slaves to propaganda more than they ever were in the past, and I don't think that's an advantage for the pro-natural order right (reality tends to be a redpill).