The “America First” Movement Has A Federal Agent Problem

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[–]MarkimusNational Socialist[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

For those who haven't been keeping up recently. Milo came back and was hanging out with Nick Fuentes and Patrick Casey. Now they want young, white, nationalists to stop caring about their race and be neutral on, or even support, Israel and Milo has been outed as a federal informant.

Do not join AIM, it's highly likely that his 'bad opsec' wasn't an accident and if it was it definitely won't be accidental in the future. Keep yourselves safe lads, these people are poison.

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Milo has been outed as a federal informant

What! Was he always?

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Possibly, but it's unclear how long he's been working with them. What we do know is that he is/was helping with the Charlottesville case AGAINST the nationalists, including people who were in Identity Europa which is the org Patrick Casey is leading under a new name...

[–]IRONICALLY_A_NAZI 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Do not join any outright pro-white political group period. What we need right now are decentralized a-political clubs/social houses, and a way to build parallel infrastructure.

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    [–]MarkimusNational Socialist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    It's in the article, he's recently been promoting Milo loads and the other day he randomly declared his support for Israel lol. The seemed like a well meaning goof with bad opsec before, but now he seems like he might have just been a bad actor all along or he is a mega goof. Either way he's a liability and anyone getting involved IRL should avoid him for their own safety. I mean the dude is literally buddying up with Milo while Milo is giving info to the Jews trying to put guys in his org in cages...

    [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Allsup has really come a long way. FTN is top notch and he's got this new mag. Good fa him!

    I feel bad because I left a message on his video accusing him during the original split with Fuentes of being afraid of Fuentes ideas -- which, to his credit, he politely responded. What a chump I was.

    This is a good reminder that if you want to know who can and can't be trusted look at their output. Allsup just kept at it making consistent, pro-White content and keeping his head down whereas Fuentes stumbled from one weird controversy to the next and was always popping up in weird places with weird people. I'm not accusing anybody of anything and refuse to speculate about that stuff -- that's what Feds are for -- but flakes and oppurtunists are much more likely to give up and turn state's evidence if pressured.

    [–]DisgustResponse 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I like Fuentes, but it should be obvious that he's living on a house of cards. He's at serious risk of canceling, not by Twitter fags, but by his own supporters, if the catboy debacle was a preview of things to come.

    [–]LetssavethefirsworldReturn to Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    This article has a lot of falsehoods in it.

    Connecting Milo and Nick in this way is faulty for a few reasons. Nick has said on his show many times that he does not support Milo or the things Milo does. He did the interview on Milo's show to pay homage to his status as the dissident right leader and Milo was trying to jump start his own show back up again. Nick literally called Milo a degenerate to his face during the interview.

    This Nick vs 'wignats' fury needs to end. He's obviously salty about how cringy their brand looks and he doesn't want his own brand tarnished by them.

    Nick has been talking about optics for YEARS. Back when he did streams with Richard and those guys he always looked polished and talked about how we need to look good to break into the mainstream. Pushing against the 'wignats' is a way of distancing himself from the toxic brand.

    No one knew Milo was a fed until like a month ago so blaming Nick for working with feds is pretty retarded.

    I suspect Nick is working with Milo so he can touch up some conservative donors. Once you break into the donor class you are mainstream. Milo was in with the GOP class and that's where Nick is trying to get so he needs Milo

    [–]MarkimusNational Socialist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    the copes are just as cold as the takes... jeez

    [–]LetssavethefirsworldReturn to Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    There's no cope idk what you're talking about

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    I dunno. It seems to be history repeating itself, the 'Alt-Right' in 2015-2016 all over again. Do you remember when people like Milo and PJW used to call themselves the 'Alt-Right'? I actually don't doubt that Nick Fuentes and AF are genuine, I certainly don't think they're feds, but they seem really naive, which isn't surprising as they're mostly kids in their late teens and early 20s.

    For all the obsession about "optics" he and his AmNat followers have, Nick Fuentes doesn't actually exhibit better "optics" than many so-called 'WigNats' based on what I've seen in his streams and his behaviour in public. Here is just one example: His 4th July stream, when he did commentary on Trump's speech at Mount Rushmore, he gloated about the conquest of North America by whites and referred to Amerindians something along the lines as "spear chuckers". I don't give a shit about that myself, I found it funny since it's the harsh truth, but let's be honest, if he ever gains a bit of prominence, it's something his enemies have certainly clipped and will use against him in the media, and it's not a brand the GOP will want to associate themselves with. Good luck gaining their approval with cookie monster jokes about the Holocaust too.

    The hardline TradCath stuff is also pretty cringe and divisive. It will not appeal to many whites in America, including Christian conservatives, who are mostly Protestants. The whole 'I'm a real conservative' shtick doesn't work in an American context since America was never a majority Catholic country.

    To be honest, it's a red flag that 'Alt-Lite' tier personalities like Milo and PJW are associating with him or his content rather than the other way round. It's not a sign Nick or his ideas are 'winning' acceptance, it's a sign that they're looking to subvert his movement into Zionist CivNat shit and grift off his relatively high profile so they can look 'edgy', but the moment things turn ugly, they will be the first to throw him and his Groypers under the bus and talk about him as if he's a piece of shit on their shoe, like they do with Richard Spencer et al. I also have no doubt that Milo has shit on Nick and his followers on a hard drive. Milo has a history of causing drama for attention.

    [–]LetssavethefirsworldReturn to Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I agree with everything you've said. I want to add a couple points.

    Back before Groyper wars, there was momentum to break in. Then Nick fucked it up when the cookie shit came out. I think Ben Shapiro walking past him at TPUSA was the killer. Since then Nick has gotten edgier because he knows he's reached a critical mass of popularity. He's driving his fans further right because he knows this is it. There have been a few Nick clones on YT and elsewhere gaining steam and their styles mimic Nick's. It's obvious they're Groypers without the baggage so they will be the ones to break in