Why Would You Put a Jeep on the Moon? What Is the Little Dish For? What Are the Logistics for Any of This?

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[–]notafed 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

The satellite dish is for their Sirius/XM radio subscription. They don't use it, but it's included with every moonbuggy as a standard option.

[–]WoodyWoodPecker 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I thought it was the Skynet uplink for Terminators?

[–]SMCAB 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

That isn't the moon. The rest of the questions don't matter.

[–]WoodyWoodPecker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

https://mythresults.com/nasa-moon-landing

[–]Questionable[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

All of the photos are fake, as you can not get film through the van Allen belt without being destroyed.

https://www.thegreenbox.net/en/books/polygon

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

you can not get film through the van Allen belt without being destroyed.

Well, you might not be able to, but people who are sensible, clever and careful can.

Does the word "shielding" mean anything to you? No, I guess not 😞

[–]Questionable[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Does the word "shielding" mean anything to you?

Yes. As they would have needed at least ten inches of led shielding for their module. Where much of the module was as thin as tin foil.

Well, you might not be able to, but people who are sensible, clever and careful can.

Sensible, clever people would simply lie. No, the American federal government is not comprised of honest people. And no, I will not get into the nuance of probable versus possible.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

at least ten inches of led shielding for their module

https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/17301/how-was-it-possible-for-the-apollo-11-to-film-and-take-pictures-with-such-radiat

So I learned something today -- the effect of radiation on the film taken to the moon for a few days was equivalent to leaving it on a shelf on earth for six months, so NASA didn't even bother with shielding for the film.

[–]Questionable[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Yes, exposure on the moon. Not through the Van Allen belt.

In addition, the film would have been at a temperatures of -200. So, I guess we wouldn't even have to worry about the radiation, as the film would have simply shattered upon taking a photo.

Say, why can't I find images of the scaled model of the moon NASA used for simulations?

OH I found it. It's at the 3 minute mark here:

https://saidit.net/s/conspiracy/comments/ccsn/american_moon_english_version/

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Oooh, the scary Van Allen belts! Where the radiation exposure to the Apollo astronauts was equivalent to ... less than three chest CT scans.

We've known since the 1950s that with just a little bit of care, the Van Allen belts are survivable. The radiation in the belts is not a Death Ray. You would have to spend something like seventy days in the belts to get a potentially lethal dose. Honestly, going on about the Van Allen belts is like saying that people cannot possibly drive faster than 40mph because the speed will kill you.

The radiation exposure from short term travel in space (up to a week or three) is not an extreme hazard, although astronauts run the (very small) risk of being exposed to a lethal dose from solar flares if they are very unlucky. A round trip to Mars, taking something like 36 months, would be a different story, but travel to the moon is not.

[–]Questionable[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Incorrect. On every account, in every way.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Your source is a video that thinks a James Bond movie and some Hollywood comedies are documentaries 😂

"How does specialist ultra-sensitive film behave in the unusual conditions of the moon?"

"Oh I dunno. Probably like regular film on the Earth, I guess."

The problem with you Denialists is that you think that wild guesses about the Van Allen belt made by scientists in the 1950s are better and more correct than actual data gathered in the 1960s. That's because you have a closed mind and are incapable of changing your ideas based on new data, so you think that's how science works too. "Van Allen guessed that the V-A belts would be immediately fatal to astronauts, so that must be true no matter what new data we learn or whatever new technology we develop."

I'm shocked that you aren't scared to drive faster that 40 mph, because scientists once thought that would be fatal. Don't you know that the human brain cannot deal with such reckless speed?

[–]Questionable[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

So just accept that there was no moon landing, without Questioning the moon landing? Do we take this at faith, do we come to you for truths now?

[–]SMCAB 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

I didn't tell you or ask you to accept anything, how do you think I came to this conclusion? Reading it on a cereal box? Were you looking for me to give you the entire history of the fake moon landing or would you like to think for yourself? Do the latter, it's much more rewarding.

You can do whatever you want my man.

[–]longtime_user 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://www.unz.com/article/the-moon-landing-a-giant-hoax-for-mankind/

[–]weavilsatemyface 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Why would you put a jeep on the moon?

  1. So the astronauts can travel further than they could on foot.
  2. To show off the technological might of the country.

What is the little dish for?

It's a high-gain radio antenna.

What are the logistics for any of this?

I don't understand the question.

You can find NASA's documentation for the rover here.

[–]Questionable[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

So the astronauts can travel further than they could on foot.

They went nowhere outside of walking distance, their only tool was a pooper scooper for collecting dust.

It's a high-gain radio antenna.

Flopping around, aimed at nothing, while they are using a ham radio to communicate with. Clearly it's a prop. One being used to make the vehicle look more technically advanced than a stripped down golf cart.

I don't understand the question.

I know. And it's painfully obvious without you needing to tell me this.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

They went nowhere outside of walking distance

Walking distance on the earth, not walking distance in hard vacuum on the moon, where over-heating and freezing are both real risks.

In any case, the real reason they sent buggies to the moon was to prove to the Russians that they could.

their only tool was a pooper scooper for collecting dust.

https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/drill-apollo-lunar-surface-alsd/nasm_A19761095000

[–]Questionable[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

And they were walking around in an absolute vacuum you say. Wearing cloth. Hard to imagine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsoE4F2Pb20

No walking distance is walking distance.

the real reason they sent buggies to the moon was to prove to the Russians that they could.

Because of the cold war. That we can safely assume our honest democratically ran government would never lie about. /s

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

And they were walking around in an absolute vacuum you say. Wearing cloth. Hard to imagine.

The video you show is of the entire mass of the earth's atmosphere pushing in on a steel drum and causing it to implode. The force on the steel drum is about 22 tons of force. That's a lot. This is what happens to submarines that go too deep, only the implosion is thousands of times more powerful.

A space suit is basically like a person-shaped balloon: it has to hold pressure in, not hold pressure out. In a vacuum they only need to hold in about 5 bar of pressure. This is easy: fire hoses hold 8 bar of pressure. So a space suit doesn't even need to be as strong as a fire hose.

No walking distance is walking distance.

Oh please. There's a difference between walking on a fine day in comfortable clothes, or walking in a blizzard, 30 degrees below zero, carrying 200 lbs of equipment.

That we can safely assume our honest democratically ran government would never lie about.

Of course not. But you can assume that if the Soviets had not tracked the Apollo rockets to the moon, they would have said something. If they had no received radio signals from the moon, they would have said something.

Dozens of countries had the ability to track the rockets to the moon and pick up the radio signals. All it would take is one such country to blow the whistle. But according to your theory, every country in the world, friends and enemies together, have to agree to go along with the conspiracy to humiliate the Soviet Union and make the US seem more powerful than it really is.

And you think the Soviets went along with it? Do you know how mad that is?

[–]Questionable[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

The video you show is of the entire mass of the earth's atmosphere pushing in on a steel drum

You mean 1 atmophere pressure versus NOT A VACUUM inside the drum, or somewhere around half an atmosphere?

I stopped reading after that. As it's clear you argue to win, and not to be right, or speak truths.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You mean 1 atmophere pressure versus NOT A VACUUM inside the drum, or somewhere around half an atmosphere?

Correct.

I stopped reading after that.

That's a shame. If you kept reading you might have learned something, and become a little bit less ignorant and a laughing stock.

I suppose you think that the ISS is also a fake? The same sort of tin can in space, with astronauts moving around in vacuum protected by the same sort of cloth spacesuits. You do realise that anyone in the world can look up and actually see the ISS travelling across the sky?

[–]Questionable[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Amazing. You refuted an unrelated question, you, yourself asked.

[–]PsychoTranyRedditMod 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Idk but it.does seem pretty cool

[–]longtime_user 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

to make people believe their money went somewhere else than into the pockets of their rulers