We don't even know if he was a person. There are important studies on the historical Jesus, some of which focus on Palestinian Jewish 'heretics' from his time who were preaching. He knew the Jewish traditions so well that he might have been Jewish. He also used Buddhist theology.

We do, many non-biblical stories account for Yeshua, even the Talmud accounts for Him saying he was a bastard child rotting in excrement. The Rabbis who rejected Christ hated Him.

He knew the Jewish traditions so well that he might have been Jewish. He also used Buddhist theology.

He knew Judahite hebrew traditions... he knew nothing of modern Jewish traditions such as the Talmud, Zohar, Lurianic Cabala... hence, not Jewish.

These were not terms used 2000 years ago. Quotations of him indicate that his approaches were quite a bit "left" by our standards, so far left that Constantine probably appreciated that Christians were easier to manipulate than the other religious groups, though only 10% of the population were Christian in 311.

Christians, ie. "the way" followers would work with the ruling powers under the view that they were subordinate to God and if they did anything contrary to God and forced Jesus followers to follow, they would refuse. Hence, Polycarp and thousands of Christians being burned alive in Pagan Rome for refusing to believe Ceasar was God. They certainly understood the threat of the movement and its morality which Pagan Romans did not follow and often made fun of.

There are also Mizrahi (oriental) and Ethiopian Jews.

Yes, after the dispersion but we cannot account for Semitic origins due to the passage of time and conversion campaigns. They do, however, purport to have the full book of Enoch, so they have been situated there for a very long time.

What they deny is that he was their Messiah, which is not surprising.

Yes, which is why modern 'Jews' based on the modern def. of Jew means anti-Christ. They are anti-Christ. That doesn't mean they are racially inferior or some other depraved view like that.

We don't 'know' who he was. There is general agreement that he was one of the Hebrew heretic preachers born in Palestine, but he's known only in stories

Modern Jews are not semitic Judahite hebrews. If Jesus is Jewish as you claim, I understand it that you mean he might have been a 'heretic' Judahite hebrew. Though I doubt this theory. Again, Jesus was not JEWISH in teh modern def. of the word Jew as Zionists like to claim.

You may know that there are liberal Jews who believe that they are very much Jewish - because their moms were Jewish - and they don't believe that they have to agree with anything you just wrote here. I think you and I disagree on this point. We cannot with any regularity fit people neatly in categories like this, as much as we or they would want us to. There is a liberal Jewish movement in New York, but I don't know much about it. I think most of them belong to this group: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reform_Judaism

Well this goes against the bible. First God said it was to be of the patrilineal line, not the matrilineal line... so they differ here on God's word. Secondly, I don't care if a modern Jew is liberal, conservative or progressive you cannot be BORN A JEW, period. The word Jew is a construct. All Judaism is, is a hijacked Judahite hebrew identity by Khazars, Cannanites, edomites practicing rabbinism. If you are an atheistical Jew and you don't practice rabbinism unless you promote it to destroy Christian nations which we can see Karl Marx did; then you are not a Jew. I don't really care if you say you are born 'Jew' because nobody can be born a Jew. Again, this is where I says atheistical 'Jews' are being used as dupes to further Zionism to some end.

If you want to claim you are a modern atheistical Jew, just say you are culturally Ashkenazi or Sephardic and leave it at that.

Pharisees had Jesus killed. We could argue that they're unrelated to modern Jews, but what they believed is very similar to what conservative Jews believe today. For example, Netanyahu and the Likud would not like Jesus.

Yes, Pharisees, which modern Rabbinists say is their modern religion. Doesn't make them blood related to biblical Israel nor does it make them the Pharisees of that time due to the passage of time and worshipping of the ZOhar, Talmud, written after Christ, and lurianic Cabala.

but what they believed is very similar to what conservative Jews believe today. For example, Netanyahu and the Likud would not like Jesus.

Yes, true... they'd probably kill Him... which is why I said the rejection of Christ by Judahite Hebrews is little different than the rejection of modern Jews today.

Hence, you can replace Judahite hebrews with the word Jew in its modern def. today but only in the understanding that they reject Christ. Not that they are one and the same.

If the vast majority of them see themselves as semitic, there isn't much we can do about it. The term refers mainly to the language that's used and it's modern usage dates only to 1770.

Again, going back to atheistical Jews as dupes. And this is the problem they hijacked Semitism and anti-Semitism as their own to take Israel for themselves, and then created a modern hebrew language to save face and look semitic. I did however, watch a great interview conducted by Russel Brand who interviewed a humanist non-religious 'Jew,' as he called himself, though we can say he came from Sephardi, Ashkenazi culture, etc., and he really isn't a Jew but he did admit that there are good scholars who say that Jews might not be semitic. He was for the Palestinian cause as well so I find this a good outlook. And I don't fault him for his humanism.

that ALL Hebrews did not hate Jesus enough to have him killed.

Yes, agreed.

Yes - though we know from recent scholarship on Josephus that one did not have to give up one's identity in order to follow Jesus's sayings or Jesus himself. There were many in Roman Palestine who were Roman Hebrews, and would have been OK with the title Roman Hebrew Christian. It's not human nature to follow only one way of thinking or believing, though there are some who like to do this.

Well God tells us that you should renounce these earthly identities. If pride of race, family, kingship, etc is of your identity in this world, you can not follow Him. You must be born again in spirit and renounce these things.

It's not human nature to follow only one way of thinking or believing, though there are some who like to do this.

Yes, Jesus the Son of God did just this. Once you get tangled up in earthly identities you fall away from Jesus that includes 'Christian' institutions, though they are a safehaven for the promulgation of rightful living and the gospel. Remember, the word Christian was created by pagan Romans as slang agaisnt those who followed Christ.