Why Face Masks Don’t Work, According To Science - Ben Swann

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[–]fred_red_beans[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

In the situation where the local environment is clean (i.e. no virus matter), wearing a face mask will reduce spread because "the main transmission route for these viral respiratory diseases is very fine aerosol particles that are supported as part of the fluid air". Hence, when an infected person breathes in a clean environment, limiting the distance that their breath travels from their face also limits the volume of space in which transmission might occur.

With the particles being suspended in air, wouldn't the virus particles that are expelled seek equilibrium in the air of an enclosed space? I could see the mask keeping the concentration higher on the inside of the mask of the infected wearer while not completely stopping virus particles from being expelled into the surrounding area. The mask will certainly do something. Is it beneficial for the general population to wear a mask? I don't see that it is, but I think it makes sense those for who are at risk to take precautions.

I think the mask mandates and the lockdowns are primarily exercises in adherence to authority and control. There is no historical precedent or clear science that shows these actions are necessary. The death rate was touted to be 3-4% without taking any asymptomatic cases into account, which in the case of influenza the asymptomatic cases to confirmed cases is 36 million to 220,000 which without taking those cases into account would result in the flu having a death rate of 10%. I know this is a bit off topic of masks, but I have to seriously doubt statements from the WHO and the CDC on this issue when it is their job to gauge and track these diseases and they had to know 3-4% was wrong.

Thank you for posting informative sources. While we may disagree, I think I've gone through more scientific studies than I have in a while.

[–]whereswhat 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

With the particles being suspended in air, wouldn't the virus particles that are expelled seek equilibrium in the air of an enclosed space?

Virus particles will diffuse into the surrounding environment at the exact same rate as the breath of air on which they are hitching a ride. The diffusion pattern depends on initial velocity, turbulence, and total volume of the exhaled breath. The presence of a mask reduces initial velocity and increases turbulence (volume of breath unaffected obviously). Both of these effects reduce the rate of diffusion. That is the mechanistic reason why masks are helpful.

Side note: I fucking love fluid dynamics :)

I could see the mask keeping the concentration higher on the inside of the mask of the infected wearer while not completely stopping virus particles from being expelled into the surrounding area.

Correct.

The mask will certainly do something. Is it beneficial for the general population to wear a mask? I don't see that it is, but I think it makes sense those for who are at risk to take precautions.

Remember that anything less than an N95 mask is not meant to protect the wearer so much as the people nearby though.

I agree that the mortality rate is wildly inflated for COVID. That said, the hospital down the street from me has been at capacity for months now so there is definitely a motivation to reduce the rate of spread.

I have mad respect for you keeping your cool and grinding through all this. It has been fun to read these articles.