Just learned that only 388,000 Africans came to the US as slaves, while about 1 million white Christian Europeans were enslaved by Muslims in Northern Africa.

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My worldview is being destroyed right now.

And Brazil received like 6 times more slaves than the US did, and their slave trade lasted like 50 years longer than the US.

TPTB really are committing mass psychological warfare against people from all races, pitting us against each other.

What do you think their goal or reason for doing this is?

https://news.osu.edu/when-europeans-were-slaves--research-suggests-white-slavery-was-much-more-common-than-previously-believed/

https://www.pbs.org/wnet/african-americans-many-rivers-to-cross/history/how-many-slaves-landed-in-the-us/

Edit: This means that Africans owned more of my white ancestors as slaves than my white ancestors owned of African Americans' ancestors.

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[–]TiredJustTired 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

To this very day, Africans are still being enslaved in Africa, the Middle East and elsewhere, yet the media continues to focus solely on slavery in the United States during that era. And if you look at the white household ownership of slaves in the United States, it pales in comparison to another group of people (Jews). Let's also not forget that it was Africans selling other Africans, and in many cases they were not even selling them to Europeans, they were selling them to Jews who profited immensely from the slave trade.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

The timing of this slavery post is interesting.

It dovetails nicely with the race war agenda that it's being pushed.

The NWO would like to create a civil war in the United States, so the Constitution can be formally dissolved.

We should not allow ourselves to be baited into a racial civil war.

I'm sure you would agree that a certain demographic would probably take advantage of the conflict.

[–]kryp655 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't know about the accuracy of those numbers, on if it's true at all. But this isn't important. You have much bigger things to worry about than that. This is essentially a war between communism and all freedom-loving capitalists. All conservatives and libertarians are allies in this context, Muslims and Jews included. The biggest threat by far are the Marxists. They are fueling the total destruction or enslavement of society and citizens.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Between 1525 and 1866, in the entire history of the slave trade to the New World, according to the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade Database, 12.5 million Africans were shipped to the New World. 10.7 million survived the dreaded Middle Passage, disembarking in North America, the Caribbean and South America.

And how many of these 10.7 million Africans were shipped directly to North America? Only about 388,000. That’s right: a tiny percentage.

Giving these figures the benefit of the doubt, and doing the math:

388,000 total slaves were brought to North America over a 341 year period results in an average of 1,138 per year to the NA continent. Or 95 per month?

Is this figure believable?

The balance of the slaves would be 10.312 million to the rest of the Americas...

The yearly average would be 30,240 slaves per year everywhere else.

So, the claim is being made that 26.6x more slaves were taken to Brazil?

This seems extremely unlikely.

I nothing to say about the 1 million white slaves in Africa, other than no evidence or methodology is provided.

Who knows... it could have been as high as 1 trillion.

[–]taylor[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Clearly you didn't read the sources I provided.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I read it, and it's absurd.

He inexplicably pigtailed 450,000 alleged slaves on to the total. Rounding up the total estimate by almost 50% in the surrounding centuries.

Could all of the previous historical investigators overlooked the hundreds of thousands of Europeans enslaved in Africa? Especially given the historical context.

Wouldn't some documented accounting of this exist within the Catholic Church?

It reminds me of a "six million" figure that is routinely bandied about before and many years after a certain contravercial event.

The historical accounting the Red Cross indicated just under 300K. The most realistic figure.

[–]taylor[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He inexplicably pigtailed 450,000 alleged slaves on to the total. Rounding up the total estimate by almost 50% in the surrounding centuries.

He explained in the article how he arrived at his conclusion.

So Davis developed a new methodology to come up with reasonable estimates of the number of slaves along the Barbary Coast. Davis found the best records available indicating how many slaves were at a particular location at a single time. He then estimated how many new slaves it would take to replace slaves as they died, escaped or were ransomed.

“The only way I could come up with hard numbers is to turn the whole problem upside down – figure out how many slaves they would have to capture to maintain a certain level,” he said. “It is not the best way to make population estimates, but it is the only way with the limited records available.”

Putting together such sources of attrition as deaths, escapes, ransomings, and conversions, Davis calculated that about one-fourth of slaves had to be replaced each year to keep the slave population stable, as it apparently was between 1580 and 1680. That meant about 8,500 new slaves had to be captured each year. Overall, this suggests nearly a million slaves would have been taken captive during this period. Using the same methodology, Davis has estimated as many as 475,000 additional slaves were taken in the previous and following centuries.

The result is that between 1530 and 1780 there were almost certainly 1 million and quite possibly as many as 1.25 million white, European Christians enslaved by the Muslims of the Barbary Coast.

Then you said:

Wouldn't some documented accounting of this exist within the Catholic Church?

If there really were between 1 million and 1.25 million white Christian Europeans enslaved in the Barbary Trade, the Church probably does have such statistics, and it's possible that they keep these stats secret so they can push whatever agenda. I feel like that agenda has something to do with making whites feel like inherently racist oppressors. Haven't quite decided why they would want to make whites feel like that, but the common denominator in all slave trades regardless of race seems to be, surprise surprise, Jews.

It's definitely possible that his estimate of 1 million - 1.25 million is wrong, but remember this isn't just some random dude making these claims - he's a professor of history at Ohio State. Not appeal to authority, but this stuff is important to note.

And more importantly, even if it is wrong, there were almost certainly more than 380,000 white Christian Europeans enslaved by black Africans in North Africa between 1500 and 1800.

“One of the things that both the public and many scholars have tended to take as given is that slavery was always racial in nature – that only blacks have been slaves. But that is not true,” Davis said. “We cannot think of slavery as something that only white people did to black people.”

Even Americans were not immune. For example, one American slave reported that 130 other American seamen had been enslaved by the Algerians in the Mediterranean and Atlantic just between 1785 and 1793.

That's basically the point I'm trying to make.