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[–]LarrySwinger2 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Something else that supports this claim: Buzzfeed's screenshot of the Operation Gridlock Los Angeles FB page shows that it had only 2 members at the time, so it was not significant at all and it seems that that article is what's been hyping it. It's also funny how "members" is highlighted in that screenshot, as if they're betraying themselves. That being said, it could simply be that the author discovered the group early as a result of researching for their article.

However, I don't see the point of astroturfing. Assuming that the economic crisis is engineered (i.e. that Covid is either a hoax, or a mild disease which is deliberately being blown out of proportion by the media), isn't it in the shadow government's interest to suppress dissent as much as possible rather than fabricate it? Of course they want there to be conflict between people, but surely they won't do that by throwing the truth movement a bone? They'd be afraid of people sympathizing with the protesters.

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The point is that people were unifying across political lines, and this re-stirs the divide.

Keeping people divided and conquered is more important to preserving the status quo, than preventing protests is. They don't care if there are small-scale ineffectual protests, they've been happening since Occupy Wall Street, and it didn't force any change then.

[–]Drewski 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

That is a good point, but if they weren't afraid of Occupy Wall St. then why did they try so hard to infiltrate and spy on it?

[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

They were afraid of it. But they stopped it. And there's zero chance this phony protest happening now will escalate in to an OWS situation. And if it does, it will be easy to make them look like loons because of these earlier paid protests that made a mockery of the whole thing, a message which the media was happy to reinforce

[–]LarrySwinger2 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm still not convinced. What are the protesters doing that's making a mockery of the anti-lockdown movement?

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You mean how everyone is constantly making fun of it and belittling it, and that's now the mainstream cultural opinion about these protests?

[–]LarrySwinger2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They don't need to stage protests to create this effect: just wait for actual protests to occur, and then activate the propaganda machine. Plus, if the truth comes out, it creates the sentiment that those protestors were right all along. All in all it seems like an unnecessary risk.

[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's so early and so obviously jumping the gun, and then also the characters involved were all ridiculous stereotypes that were easy for the media to make fun of. Which will then deter later protests of a similar nature because many people are preconditioned to believe such a protest is a bit silly now.

[–]GenesisStryker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Okay so we found the "astroturfer"... surprise it was a leftist! http://archive.is/6ago3

[–]LarrySwinger2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Hey have you got a direct link or an alternative archive? That page discriminates against Tor users, makes them fill in a captcha that requires you to whitelist Google Javascript.

[–]GenesisStryker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)