Is Ukraine Actually A US/Russia Proxy War?

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[–]BravoVictor 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

True. Proxy war in that it's not a direct war between the two. But you're right. This one is closer to home than most, exactly like the Cuban missile crisis.

[–]Cyberat 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Except there was no war in Cuba, if you ignore the JFK Operation Bay of Pigs failure.

[–]BravoVictor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Exactly. The Bay of Pigs and other antagonizations were the proxy war. The missile crisis risked it being a direct war. US and Russia ships almost came to blows and Russia backed off.

Russia's been hoping, through negotiations over the last 8 years, that the US and NATO would back off their expansion in Ukraine, but they didn't. I can only guess at the calculus each side used. Maybe the US didn't think Putin would actually invade, or maybe they thought he might but it was still worth the risk to take Ukraine.

[–]Cyberat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Russia did not invade, you are watching false flags and fakery. Sending mercs. ? Perhaps.

This will come to nuclear war, because USA still has a larger military and bigger budget to overwhelm them with ordnance alone.

When Putin realizes he cannot win and invested too much of a military force to be able to defend Russia from an invasion.