Chicago's lesbian mayor, Lori Lightfoot, launched a police raid on Sunday on a predominately black church for holding services in defiance of her coronavirus shutdown orders • /s/BiblicalSubmission

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[–][deleted] 16 insightful - 4 fun16 insightful - 3 fun17 insightful - 4 fun -  (49 children)

So? You don't get special exceptions to illness or disease because of your beliefs. Worse, you still hurt others. Your recourse is in the law, not in breaking that law and disrespecting or possibly killing your fellow citizenry.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 26 insightful - 3 fun26 insightful - 2 fun27 insightful - 3 fun -  (48 children)

You don't get special exceptions to illness or disease because of your beliefs.

Constitutionally protected rights cannot be made illegal. Freedom of religion, freedom to assemble, and freedom protest are protected.

It is illegal to infringe on these rights. She is an enemy of freedom.

She is an elected official. She should be arrested immediately, and tried for treason.

If people are afraid of getting the flu then they can stay home.

Edit: Please watch this 2 min video and form your own opinion of Lightfoot.

Chicago Mayor Lightfoot What Did She Say???

I would never in a million years have guessed the words that come out of her mouth in the last 20 seconds.

It is a truth bomb that should be an immediate call to arms.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (47 children)

Rights are not absolute things like magical incantations. The courts have throughout the country repeatedly backed up that the states have the authority to inhibit or alter your rights in all kinds of conditions, such as arrest, and in the event of a pandemic. Successive supreme court rulings over the past 100 years repeatedly affirm the ability for states to declare quarantines, as well as close and regulate businesses, and these include places of worship so long as it is not explicitly a prohibition on only places of worship or specific ones.

In other words, no, your rights are not magically immutable just because you don't care about other people. This is because, unlike children, normal adults understand their actions can infringe on the rights of others. Such as their right to liberty and happiness. Can't be very happy if a bunch of tantrum throwing toddlers in adult bodies are spreading around a disease, now can you?

[–]Dragonerne 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (46 children)

She is violating their rights. This church can always retaliate and take away her rights too. This is what 2A is for.

[–]FediNetizen 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

Yeah, that's the way to approach this. Pastor has to limit himself to webcasts for a while? Lets just start murdering people.

[–]Dragonerne 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

Yes exactly. Don't tread on our rights if you want to live.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

"I can't get other people sick so I'll shoot people trying to stop me"

[–]jamesK_3rd 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

She has allowed other methods of assembly, including multiple and numerous "protests", large mass gatherings for George Floyyd, antifa rallies, and some LGBT parades just to name a few.

She's singling out religious groups and individuals, but she allows the now dominant religion, atheism and it's followers to worship and celebrate.

Any smart group would take them to court on the above grounds as she's had several news conferences where she stated that protests and parades were ok on 1st amendment grounds.

Lastly, who released you from reddit. Take that group think herd mentality back over there so you can be with the other moral relativists and religious atheists. Please get back to your grindr account, they miss you.

Toodles

[–]Dragonerne 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you. It's really terrifying when talking to a person how suddenly the language, the arguments etc. turn into reddit hivemind. You know exactly what is going to be said and the words that's going to be used. It's like the person you're talking to suddenly has been possessed by a demon that has taken control of the body and the thoughts. Very scary actually.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

She's a hypocrite. I happen to agree. Your point is?

[–]Dragonerne 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

I can go where I please. If you want to infringe on my rights, you better have enough force to prevent me from defending myself. For your own safety.

[–]FediNetizen 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

Lol this is some /r/IAmVeryBadass shit.

[–]Chipit 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

This is some very cringe redditor shit.

Do you have any actual arguments to make other than personal insults?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

My vote is on troll or soon to be in prison. Hopefully he stays away from people in some shack out in the woods, rather than shoots someone innocent because "muh rights".

[–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not an argument.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

As healthy individuals, I find it hard to see how anti-mask/anti-lockdown protestors are spreading disease. I haven't met a single sick person or healed person throughout this entire season. You are so scared we might be sick, when we aren't. It's really sad.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

Nope. Your rights are being modified. You can still assemble, just not in person nor viral transmission range. As Fedinetizen pointed out, this is what streaming and computers are for. If you lack a computer, there still exist party lines and broadcasting that can accomplish the same thing. Not being able to do what you want when you want is not an "infringement" on the constitution, you could never do that without subverting somebody else's rights.

[–]StBlops2cel_is_Lord 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

She has allowed other methods of assembly, including multiple and numerous "protests", large mass gatherings for George Floyd, Pantyfa rallies, and some LGBT parades just to name a few, you obese lunkhead

[–]Dragonerne 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Your rights are being modified.

As are hers and whoever else feels like "modifying" our rights.

Not being able to do what you want when you want is not an "infringement" on the constitution, you could never do that without subverting somebody else's rights.

Exactly. Great. It seems we're in agreement then.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

As are hers and whoever else feels like "modifying" our rights.

"What is the supreme court?"

[–]Dragonerne 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Ask my gun.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

If you actually lived by this internet tough guy act you'd either be in prison or shot by now. Forgive me if I don't believe you aren't a troll.

[–]Dragonerne 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

The founding fathers made sure we had guns for people like you. Forgive me for not giving a fuck about your "debate". Infringe on my rights and be prepared that I do the same to you.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You don't even understand what protesting is if you think people can protest by broadcasting shit and following party lines. Real protests get shit done because they made a massive public outcry. IN PUBLIC. You are focusing on the wrong things here.