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[–]Maniak🥃😾[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (26 children)

So, I can't cook for shit, but even I know that this is stupid.

[–]CaelianPost No Toasties 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (25 children)

Yeah, but you're French. Cooking is in your blood, mon ami :-)

[–]Maniak🥃😾[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

My blood must be tainted. I can take a lot, but 'french cuisine' to me is pretentious crap that you pay a lot just to be hungry again 30mn after you've left the restaurant. And don't even try to mention frogs or snails, or I'll barf on your account! :)

Besides, the vast, vast, vast majority of french people I know, which is the vast majority of the people I know, is complete shit at cooking. And owns it.

[–]Budget-song-budget 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

The sold stereotype goes:

French cook from fresh ingredients, they love to touch, and feel before they buy

Whereas Americans have a reputation for fast food and piling on the calories. As for British cooking its bland, by reputation. Apple's were waxed to shine. British wanted their food to look good, but taste wise showed little discernment.

One guy who went to the docks as ships arrived to pick up fresh deliveries said as the incoming immigrants change, so does the food that's sold. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01j73s3

[–]Maniak🥃😾[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

French cook from fresh ingredients, they love to touch, and feel before they buy

Well that's an overgeneralization, but for those who do, for example, buy those weird things called 'froots' or something, there is a 'grab and look it over to make sure it's acceptable' phase, yes.

Given that I don't like touching anything, especially things that I know have been touched all over by who knows how many weird people, I just stick to things with a date on some plastic.

I've been bred on burnt food because there was always something on TV at the time the oven alarm went off, so... stereotype really doesn't fit there :)

[–]Budget-song-budget 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I remember reading just because something was wrapped in plastic didn't mean it too didn't carry any germs. I'm not talking about cooked or pre cooked food here, but items like vegetables or 'froots'.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/features/smart-packaging-food-safety-plastic/ ‘Smart’ packaging preserves food and enhances safety without plastic waste

something on TV 😂

[–]Maniak🥃😾[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Most likely, but it's mainly psychological :)

Besides, what are... wage-eatables was it? Sounds nearly as exotic as those froot things.

[–]Budget-song-budget 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Vegetables if cooked properly are 😋. Seriously. As are raw fruits.

I've to admit I was surprised, that something nicely wrapped up should house so many germs. But when without washing hands workers touch and handle food they leave their bugs behind.

Irradiation was one solution, but oops, turned out if someone hadn't washed their hands after going to the toilet, irradiating the food didn't kill those germs!

https://boingboing.net/2011/07/29/the-pros-and-cons-of-irradiated-food.html

2001 https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/33/3/375/278041?login=false To Irradiate or Not to Irradiate: What Are the Risk-Benefit Arguments in Relation to Food Safety?

[–]Maniak🥃😾[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Simplest and safest long-term solution may be to simply stop bothering, get used to being exposed to germs all over the place and develop a better immune system \o/

As mentioned in-depth here :)

[–]Budget-song-budget 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If you grow up surrounded by dogs or pets your system gets trigger practice, as a kid. As an adult chances of getting asthma are nil. But those kids who have grown up in super clean environments no pets, no dirt they're sitting ducks. Someone I know was advised to get a pet, due to asthma diagnosed after she left university. She'd always wanted one as a child but her mother refused outright, overruling her dad who was ok with it.

Sometimes you take a chance - sometimes not. If the food tastes ok, smells ok, past its use by date, I'll risk it. But finding a bag of nuts in the cupboard a year out of date, still unopened, looked online for advice. Do they have a white powder effect? If yes, don't eat them. Apart from the white powder effect they seemed ok. But I wasn't brave enough to risk it.

My mother disregarded the advice - she said as a child she'd eaten lots of nuts, never gotten sick. I've seen the effects of food poisoning, luckily I've never had it. Probably paranoid like the time I opened a can of chicken soup, smelled foul, but it still had months to go. It was the first and only time that chicken soup didn't smell right. Not worth the risk.

Removed the dish from the fridge, oops, the cooked broccoli seemed to be threaded with white strands, yep gone off, but the rest of the contents smelled and looked ok. So very carefully removed all the broccoli and anything it could have contacted, warned it up. 👍 Luckily judged correctly. Both the chicken and the rice were dry, now had their been liquid in it, 🤔.

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

Maniak was clearly a changeling, he's said he doesn't like what I consider the most exquisite of French culinary offerings.

[–]CaelianPost No Toasties 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

That reminds me. NPR had a segment this morning about the astronomic rise in the price of fish and chips in England. They described fish and chips as "an integral part of the British culinary landscape". Kind of like describing McDonald's as cuisine.

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

I'd say it was accurate though since culinary means "Of or relating to a kitchen or to cookery." Cuisine basically means the same thing ("A characteristic manner or style of preparing food") but it always sounds more highbrow in French. Or maybe just sexier; there was a so-so movie with Dick Banjamin married to Jessica Lange where she drove him into a lustful frenzy by talking French to him.

[–]CaelianPost No Toasties 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

it always sounds more highbrow in French

My other daughter says French adds a certain je ne sais quoi, a certain pomme de terre.

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

She's inherited your sense of humor, I see.

[–]CaelianPost No Toasties 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

where she drove him into a lustful frenzy by talking French to him

Is it anywhere as hilarious as John Cleese speaking Russian to Jamie Lee Curtis in the excellent A Fish Called Wanda?

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Naw, that was pretty hilarious.

[–]CaelianPost No Toasties 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

IMO both culinary and cuisine have the connotation of fine cooking. Fish and chips is IMO better described as eats, grub, or nosh 😺

OTOH, sometimes a word choice is merely pretentious:

Q: What's the difference between deli and charcuterie?
A: About $10 a pound 😺

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Good description. I remember a presenter at a conference saying the scarf she wore that everyone was admiring came from Targét.

[–]CaelianPost No Toasties 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I generally say Targét. My daughter introduced me to that amusing pronunciation. But I'm switching to calling it Tarrrr-get after George Grisby, a minor but memorable character in The Lady from Shanghai (1947). Grisby's best line is "Just tell 'em you're taking a little tarrrr-get practice." My version is "I'm going to do a little Tarrrr-get shopping" 😺

Did you know that in French the word toupée is spelled toupet? It's pronounced the same way. The French don't need the accent to tell them to pronounce it Frenchly.

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I did not know that, larn sumthin' new ever' day.

The one that sometimes puzzles me is British English, especially place names; you look at the word and think "how in the hell did they come up with that pronunciation?" I mean, we have silent letters, too, but we tend to spread them around instead of stuffing a bunch of them into a single word.

[–]CaelianPost No Toasties 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Names of people are often interesting in Blighty. There's a villain in Graham Greene's excellent 1936 anti-war novel A Gun for Sale named Cholmondeley, which is pronounced "Chumley". Monty Python mocks this with Graham Chapman's "No, no, no -- it's spelt Raymond Luxury Yacht, but it's pronounced Throatwobbler Mangrove" :-)

[–]Maniak🥃😾[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You surely can't mean anything remotely related to the rotten crap that some people call cheese.

That could go in the microwave for ages, wouldn't make it worse :/

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You like weird pizza toppings, 'nuff said.

[–]Maniak🥃😾[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't care about pizza toppings, there's a nuance.