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[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Great links, the first one in particular as it lays out the benefits vs. costs, with too little consideration given to the latter, I'm glad he addressed the issue if solar panels, which an article he links to states:

In the US, there are no federal regulations to mandate PV recycling, and according to the US National Renewable Energy Laboratory, less than 10% of the country’s decommissioned panels are recycled. Even in the European Union, where legislation requires PV recycling, many waste facilities merely harvest bulk materials like aluminum frames and glass covers, which make up over 80% of a silicon panel’s mass. The remaining mass is often incinerated, even though it contains elements like silver, copper, and silicon, which together account for two-thirds of the monetary value of a silicon panel’s materials.

It is as it's always been when introducing new technology. Consider the ion batteries contained in millions of electronic devices, which aren't supposed to go into landfills but undoubtedly do. They have the annual Spring clean-ups in my area where you can take such items but the lines and wait are very long so I imagine a lot of people don't bother - and remember the news reports back some years ago that old computers from the US were being dumped in poor countries where poverty-wage workers were dismantling them to extract the salvageable parts? I used the CFL light bulbs when they first came out, trying to be a good little environmentally conscious citizen - until my brother showed me the special disposal instructions on the packaging. Where would you dispose of them properly, you may ask? Who the hell knows?

[–]AeoooAe 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Good explanatory video and I've bookmarked that channel. I don't think the SNPs are unfamiliar with any of this, they just think the rest of us are.

[–]AeoooAe 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Complimentary to this vivid demonstration that tree replacement doesn’t work (i.e. only after a thousand years of undergrowth re-fostering), here’s an unparalleled and unique tribute to the tender and giving and peaceful, yet impervious and inviolable tree, that still gets cruelly chopped, a tribute by a phenomenal young German singer who went by the name of Alexandra, in a 1968 song.

The one fucking successor to Marlene Dietrich that Germany ever saw died in a car accident at 27 years old, the year after she gave the world this song.

In this video she already wears the dress in which she’s about to jump and soar away to heaven, or to the realm of the unknown or at least the intangible.

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Beautiful song and voice. What a tragic story. Watching the second video was more emotional, even not having the benefit of the English translation, because of the sorrow her face conveyed so well.

[–]AeoooAe 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well, she’s on cam with the prompt to give proper expression to a sad song.

No, that ain’t it.

We’re speaking anticipatory or advance sorrow, knowing to the T of the Tragedy of Toiletlib Tyranny in the core of her bones what Germany and the world would become.

How lucky she was to have found an out in 1969.

Except she’d never become as old as Joe Biden, 81, and be as privileged to rediscover those lucky times today to the tune of a distant ice cream car that one can’t discern or establish anymore whether it might be real or it might be dreamt up.