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[–]HopeThatHalps 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

This is a hamfisted way of looking at the issue. You could have things like background checks, no loop holes, waiting periods, etc. and all the good people in the church would have their guns, but this mentally deranged psycho might have had trouble overcoming all those obstacles, because he's a deranged psycho. His family said he was troubled his whole life.

[–]edbods 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You could have things like background checks, no loop holes, waiting periods, etc. and all the good people in the church would have their guns

https://imgur.com/gallery/D9taL

the last paragraph might interest you

[–]bookluminous 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Felons and the mentally deranged are banned from possessing guns under any circumstance, I honestly don't know how you plan to improve upon that system while retaining the rights of lawful owners.

It's very optimistic to assume that enough mentally deranged people that "detected" and thus banned. In fact many of these terrible events might be such people in the end. Mentally stable and sane people won't get religiously brainwashed. Same for supremacists.

[–]edbods 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah but I think the point is that you can write any amount of laws stopping people from owning guns but because people are people and human nature is a stubborn thing that isn't going away any time soon, people will still get guns, only now it's the people whom you don't want having guns that now have them because they don't care what the law says they can and can't do, while the people whom you would want to have guns - the rational, healthy minded, sane people who do follow the law, can't have guns because the law says they're not allowed to.