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[–]HopeThatHalps 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

That security gaurd was a really good shot.

[–]gunther1992 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Imagine having a security guard in a fucking church, this must be america

[–]HopeThatHalps 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Its the holy war they've been fantasizing about, they want to kill for Jesus.

[–]YarkiK 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Didn't the Muzzies call a holy war or what not...

[–]bookluminous 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The extremists muslims weren't the firsts and they won't be the lasts.

[–]bookluminous 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Specifically USA. I hope it's not like that in other countries.

[–]Dickfore 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Imagine being smart enough to have security in a church, instead of everywhere else in the world where mass murders just walk through and kill people at their leisure. Moron.

[–]JerrySue 16 insightful - 6 fun16 insightful - 5 fun17 insightful - 6 fun -  (11 children)

All these twitter comments like "thank god our second ammendment rights stopped that killer, liberal laws would cause so many more deaths" like bitch your second ammendment just killed 2 innocents. A trained security guard took him down not some rando civilian

[–]XanGambit 21 insightful - 6 fun21 insightful - 5 fun22 insightful - 6 fun -  (6 children)

The security guard is a church volunteer. He’s not “trained” aside from knowing how to use a gun. So, yes, this is 100% 2nd Amendment preventing a mass shooting. Almost all churches security teams are comprised of volunteers / members serving in that capacity. Larger churches will have police or local law enforcement around as well.

[–]WizardBlob 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

To be fair, it's kind of dumb to present this as a case FOR the second amendment. It's a debate that really is significantly more complex than cherry picked events. If you submit this as evidence in favor, you have to accept the counter evidence such as Las Vegas and every other shooting. Not a great angle. Also, not disagreeing that it did save lives in this case!

[–]jizzyaccent 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

NO

[–]HopeThatHalps 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

This is a hamfisted way of looking at the issue. You could have things like background checks, no loop holes, waiting periods, etc. and all the good people in the church would have their guns, but this mentally deranged psycho might have had trouble overcoming all those obstacles, because he's a deranged psycho. His family said he was troubled his whole life.

[–]edbods 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You could have things like background checks, no loop holes, waiting periods, etc. and all the good people in the church would have their guns

https://imgur.com/gallery/D9taL

the last paragraph might interest you

[–]bookluminous 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Felons and the mentally deranged are banned from possessing guns under any circumstance, I honestly don't know how you plan to improve upon that system while retaining the rights of lawful owners.

It's very optimistic to assume that enough mentally deranged people that "detected" and thus banned. In fact many of these terrible events might be such people in the end. Mentally stable and sane people won't get religiously brainwashed. Same for supremacists.

[–]edbods 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah but I think the point is that you can write any amount of laws stopping people from owning guns but because people are people and human nature is a stubborn thing that isn't going away any time soon, people will still get guns, only now it's the people whom you don't want having guns that now have them because they don't care what the law says they can and can't do, while the people whom you would want to have guns - the rational, healthy minded, sane people who do follow the law, can't have guns because the law says they're not allowed to.

[–]RedditSaidit 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

They need to ban the second amendment in brazil

[–]LastKnightShade 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

It may have killed 2 innocent people, but it also stopped stopped the gunman. The 2nd amendment goes both ways.

Also lol at "trained security guard". Proof that dumb people approve of dumb comments.

[–]bookluminous 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The 2nd amendment goes both ways.

Yep. The more people carry, the more chances one of them that has mental issues will become a shooter. Not that simple.

[–]Dickfore 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes because guns don't exist anywhere else in the world. And murders never happen? I'd rather live in a more dangerous, yet free society, than some European shithole. I can't wait until all your "migrants" start ramping up their murders in your countries. Why someone was just beheaded in public in France this week!

[–]SorryForYourFeels 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

Glad the church members were packing. Also glad that asshole murderer got ventilated. More people should conceal carry. RIP the two victims.

[–]bookluminous 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The more people carry, the more chances one of them that has mental issues will become a shooter. Not that simple.

[–]Troy 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Saidit always comes through

[–]Troy 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The church service was being live-streamed to YouTube at the time of the shooting. Maybe that was one motivator for the shooter

[–]zoristtot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ban cams.

[–]DoctorsHateHim 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (24 children)

WTF is a white settlement? Is that real? And look, it's all old fogeys.

[–]Red23 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Apart from the young people.

[–]High_and_Lonesome 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

For real. Looks like it is legit a place called White Settlement, Texas.

So weird. I mean, I makes sense because Texas used to be Mexico. Ya know, full of Mexicans. White Settlement is a little too on the nose.

[–]matthewfuture 11 insightful - 5 fun11 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 5 fun -  (13 children)

Well, everywhere in the U.S. is full of mexicans and south americans, etc now. Texas vs Mexico was settled long ago. Unfortunately many people don't get that and places (like San Antonio where I live) are "sanctuary" cities and seem to defeat the purpose of being part of the U.S. Local police have no power to notify ICE of illegals, and catholic charities love to house these people to support their own cause. I see mexican flags everywhere here. Many people have more allegiance to mex-i-co than the country that they are living in. Fucking sad and aggravating.

[–]RocHardigan 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Ok boomer

[–]Bringsun 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

OK Incel

[–]bookluminous 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

everywhere in the U.S. is full of mexicans and south americans, etc now

That wrong according to demographic right? Aren't whites non-hispanos the majority almost everywhere?

[–]matthewfuture 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Still technically in white-established countries, but Latinos are becoming one of the fastest growing infestations vis a vis migrants from South America to North America, and Mexico from North America to the United States. It is an established fact that they will overrun the majority population within several years. I can post data if you'd like. Full disclosure, I am a quarter Spanish myself, my family name came here in the mid 1500s as missionaries, but am also half Irish and a quarter English. So I DO resent beggars that come over here willy nilly and wanting free shit. I would tell them, "FIX YOU OWN GOD DAMN COUNTRY!" Leaving soles

[–]ConsiderateCapybara 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

[–]HopeThatHalps 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Maybe for practicality sake they should think about renaming the place. It's not a positive when your town makes headlines and you have to clarify that youre not a white supremacist cult.

[–]ConsiderateCapybara 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Oh for sure.

According to the wikipedia article in 2005 there was a vote to change the town's name to West Settlement and it was rejected by 2388 to 219.
Maybe nowadays it would be different. Maybe not.

[–]HopeThatHalps 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Well, I guess they deserve any blowback they get then. I wouldn't be surprised if this attack happened at this church specifically because of the town's name. In the video, the shooter is very blury, but I can tell you this much, he was not white.

[–]imdamonq 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Better get some glasses because he's white.

[–]tobintonu 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

White Settlement is AWFUL, full of racists and terrifying to go to. I try to avoid at all costs. I used to work at a toys r us there.

[–]DoctorsHateHim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why is none of this in the news? They keep showing that video but no mention of it being a racist settlement.

[–]sugarallie 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The woman screaming what sounds like "Daddy! No!" repeatedly just breaks my heart. So thankful that guard was there and attentive.

[–]Griffter[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Update: 1 was killed, another one is critically injured.

Edit: The death toll is at 2 again, excluding the suspect.

[–]PurpleHelmut71 12 insightful - 7 fun12 insightful - 6 fun13 insightful - 7 fun -  (4 children)

Never mind that. How many were critically brainwashed being in a church in the first place?

[–]grenade 14 insightful - 8 fun14 insightful - 7 fun15 insightful - 8 fun -  (1 child)

yikes m8

[–]3xk_Nig_HanxXx 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

in this moment he is euphoric

[–]minminminmin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In fact, no person was injured.

[–]bookluminous 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

People can be religious without being brainwashed and of course we hear a lot more about the brainwashed ones due to the horrors they do.

[–]jizzyaccent 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thought you wrote I was killed. haha, funny, my mistake

[–]Breezyjr 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There is an old lady, on the opposite side, away from camera, who doesn't move the whole time... lol looks like the person with her, hits the deck, but she's just sitting there. And, rather than think she's old and can't move, I'm going with, she's such a badass, nothing affects her. lol

[–]blind_sypher88 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

hahahaha nigger got dropped.

[–]Red23 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Pew pew pew! Get it?

[–]High_and_Lonesome 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's pretty cold blooded of that church to murder 2 people like that.

[–]sib008 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

is there a article on this anywhere?

[–]ConsiderateCapybara 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I found this

[–]cannabusmamluk 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It’s 3 deaths now.