13-Year-Old Kills an Old Man on the Bus Because the Man’s Leg Was Blocking the Aisle

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[–]Musky 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (29 children)

because they can get guns

No guns isn't even an option, but that's not true. When I went to school kids were allowed to bring guns onto campus, secured in their vehicles, and there were zero issues.

Antidepressants are a likely culprit, why don't we ban those instead. I bet the school shootings would disappear, assuming the kids ever recover, but even if some couldn't, they'd be the last generation to be a threat.

No one is calling that a "white" people problem, are they?

Fuck yes they do.

You're assuming that we should call this 13-year-old a black kid based on NO evidence

It's black behavior, there's plenty of precedent to assume this was a black kid.

does not matter in the slightest

It does, as I said, if you ignore skin color you try fixing the wrong issue. You mistakenly see it as a gun issue, so your solution is to ban guns. You won't fix the problem solving the wrong issue.

It's a black issue and frankly social pressure can be used to possibly mitigate a lot of it. I no longer see black people hooting and hollering like apes in the movie theaters, and it's because they got made fun of for it, and will call each other out for acting poorly.

By ignoring this is a black problem you are dooming them to continue acting like subhuman thugs. You're killing black people and throwing away their lives to prison with your racism even as you believe yourself to be some kind of righteous anti racist. You're a typical smug liberal hypocrite racist.

[–]Bitch-Im-a-cow 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

No guns isn't even an option, but that's not true. When I went to school kids were allowed to bring guns onto campus, secured in their vehicles, and there were zero issues.

This is an entirely different issue. You can't change the topic to "no guns". The problem is that it's EASY for a 13-year-old to get a gun in the US.

Antidepressants are a likely culprit, why don't we ban those instead. I bet the school shootings would disappear, assuming the kids ever recover, but even if some couldn't, they'd be the last generation to be a threat.

Also off topic, and unlikely. A 13-year-old on antidepressants? Not common.

No one is calling that a "white" people problem, are they?

Fuck yes they do.

NO they don't. "Another white teenager shot someone today...." Nope.

You're assuming that we should call this 13-year-old a black kid based on NO evidence

It's black behavior, there's plenty of precedent to assume this was a black kid.

BUT there's NO evidence. Think of the world we'd live in where no evidence was used for understanding crimes. Oh wait - that's Saidit?

does not matter in the slightest

It does, as I said, if you ignore skin color you try fixing the wrong issue. You mistakenly see it as a gun issue, so your solution is to ban guns. You won't fix the problem solving the wrong issue.

I did NOT ignore skin color. There is NO skin color to discuss because it's NOT related to this incident. You're ADDING skin color to it, for your own reasons.

It's a black issue and frankly social pressure can be used to possibly mitigate a lot of it. I no longer see black people hooting and hollering like apes in the movie theaters, and it's because they got made fun of for it, and will call each other out for acting poorly.

Again - you don't know and it's not necessarily related.

By ignoring this is a black problem you are dooming them to continue acting like subhuman thugs. You're killing black people and throwing away their lives to prison with your racism even as you believe yourself to be some kind of righteous anti racist. You're a typical smug liberal hypocrite racist.

Nobody is ignoring something that does not exist. Skin color is NOT part of the incident information. You also reveal here that anyone in your view who does not majically project a black shooter onto this incident is a smug liberal hypocrite. More projecting from your part. If I don't want to project onto this incident a pack of lies, that does not identify me politically. But let's say that liberals don't like lies and that fascists love lies. Well now we're onto something.

[–]Musky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Also off topic, and unlikely. A 13-year-old on antidepressants? Not common.

Phooey & Jason were. Two people on this tiny site. Although antidepressants are a potential factor in school shootings, it's not behind black violence.

NO they don't. "Another white teenager shot someone today...." Nope.

You're living with your head in the sand.

https://hostux.pics/images/2024/02/08/100001501434f977f0f86f41c8.png

[–]Bitch-Im-a-cow 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

https://hostux.pics/images/2024/02/08/100001501434f977f0f86f41c8.png PNG

That's not a news headline or introdution that notes that "a white teenager shot...."

I read a lot of news; that ain't in the news

But don't you worry - see the top comment here:

https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2024/02/03/denver-13-year-old-boy-accused-fatal-shooting-60-year-old-man-leg-blocked-bus-aisle/

The KKK at Breitbart are already looking for a dirty cop who will reveal the ethnicity of the shooter. If it's a black kid, you can post a comment: ThAt CoMMiE BasTArD CumSOck NigGrEDly piCkUp TrUCk hAtn' lIBtArd sAiD ThIs TwErn'T No nAyyGGr!!!l

[–]Rah 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Moo

[–]Musky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's not a news headline or introdution that notes that "a white teenager shot...."

That's not what we were talking about. You said nobody says that and yet plenty of people say it.

Moving goalposts because you can't fathom you're the only racist in this conversation.

[–]Bitch-Im-a-cow 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

B said - No one is calling that a "white" people problem, are they?

M said - Fuck yes they do.

B said - NO they don't. "Another white teenager shot someone today...." Nope.

M said - You're living with your head in the sand. https://hostux.pics/images/2024/02/08/100001501434f977f0f86f41c8.png PNG

B said - That's not a news headline or introdution that notes that "a white teenager shot...."

M said - That's not what we were talking about. You said nobody says that and yet plenty of people say it. Moving goalposts because you can't fathom you're the only racist in this conversation.

B 🤦‍♂️

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

By ignoring this is a black problem you are dooming them to continue acting like subhuman thugs. You're killing black people and throwing away their lives to prison with your racism even as you believe yourself to be some kind of righteous anti racist. You're a typical smug liberal hypocrite racist.

Damn shitrat, noice. Fully agreed.

[–]Musky 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's similar to the whole "latinx" thing. People like Socks imagine what would be best for black people without actually ever talking to black people. It's a slave master knows best mentality common among liberals.

[–]Bitch-Im-a-cow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

Except that I did not ignore that it's a black problem. I've not discussed the issue with regard to blacks, or the lack thereof. And there's no connection with politics, "liberals", fascists &c.

I noted that we don't know about the color of the skin of the shooter and it doesn't matter. Both of you are typing emotional responses about your interests in making this a black shooter problem and a political problem ("smug liberal...") when you DON'T know the color of the skin of the shooter, and you can't prove that black murderers are any different than white murderers, or hispanic murderers, or asian murderers, or pigmy murderers (though we know pigmy's eat their young and murder several neighbors per year for fun).

You both don't have the facts and are instead focusing on making this report about an anti-black and anti-liberal message you want to push. What does that say about you? You're projecting your own racial and political hatred onto a news report that's unrelated to your fragile personal points of view about race and politics. There's no relation between that report and you MAGA, knuckle-dragging, sister-fucking, toothless, tattoo covered, pot-bellied, redneck snowflakes. None. (Wait, that describes you both perfectly, right? I mean that would be really odd if someone identified you according to your comments. Yikes.) /u/Musky

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Except that I did not ignore that it's a black problem. I've not discussed the issue with regard to blacks, or the lack thereof. [...] I noted that we don't know about the color of the skin of the shooter and it doesn't matter.

???? sounds like ignoring some potentially relevant shit to me.

[–]Bitch-Im-a-cow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Try reading it, rather than listening.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

What is the probability that the kid is black? I'm going with 80%. You?

[–]Bitch-Im-a-cow 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

In Denver (80% white county), and dumb enough to shoot a honkie on a public bus? Look at the statistics for shootings in the US (we share them regularly on Saidit, from a US.gov website) and you'll see that whites do more shootings (but there are more whites in the US), followed by blacks, followed by a narrow margin by hispanics, followed by asians, followed by 'mixed'. Considering these stats, changes are 25% or at best 30% that it's a black kid.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Nice. I guess I should have reddit.

[–]Bitch-Im-a-cow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Edit: check out the percentage of honkies responsible for mass shootings: https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race

Damn - honkies are scary AF

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

youre a fucking honkey too. maybe you should act like it once in a while.

i would like to see how these stats were calculated. the devil is in the details. look up gun crime quantity by type of gun. pistol crime is on top. but whitey doesn't use pistols to shoot up schools. it kinda seems like they just care about AR-15s.

edit: oh they told me!

Since 2013, the source defines a mass shooting as any single attack in a public place with three or more fatalities, in line with the definition by the FBI. Before 2013, a mass shooting was defined as any single attack in a public place with four or more fatalities.

i request murderers by race, please

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

total redo. so 13% of the population is committing 26% of mass shootings. whereas whitey is 60% of the population committing 80% of the mass shootings. thus blacks are way more violent? oh no, they have that covered too.

While a superficial comparison of the statistics seems to suggest African American shooters are over-represented and Latino shooters underrepresented, the fact that the shooter’s race is unclear in around nine percent of cases, along with the different time frames over which these statistics are calculated, means no such conclusions should be drawn.

Am I buying that last part? Hmmm

[–]bogbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What is the probability that the kid is black? I'm going with 80%. You?

as i have been trying to come up with ways to promote saidit, i have found another place to put a saidit link.

https://old.reddit.com/r/fuckthealtright

i am gonna grab my popcorn.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

/s/debatealtright used to be glorious. but now it's empty. but yeah that does sound like good fun.

[–]Musky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

it doesn't matter

Massa says it ain't matter none, it mus ain't not matter den.

emotional responses

Fuck yes it's emotional, I find your attitude towards keeping negroes down abhorrent. I might like to say nigger sometimes but I wouldn't ever try and stop a peoples from elevating themselves. You would. You are. I find it disgusting.

when you DON'T know the color of the skin of the shooter,

Sounds like a black kid to me, cause gun violence is largely a black issue.

you can't prove that black murderers are any different than white murderers, or hispanic murderers, or asian murderers

I read the news constantly. You don't see all that many asian kids committing murder. It's not a colorblind issue. There are real racial differences whether you want to ignore it or not.

you MAGA

Now that's just retarded, nobody in this conversation is a big Trump fan. Everyone you don't like has to be evil MAGA because you can't even conceive of the fact you're dead wrong.

[–]Bitch-Im-a-cow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I'm not seeing here sustained arguments and evidence about the importance of skin color in that bus shooting.

[–]Musky 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I already explained it. There's one very important argument for why it matters. I don't need a neverending list.

[–]bogbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I already explained it. There's one very important argument for why it matters. I don't need a neverending list.

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[–]Bitch-Im-a-cow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I already explained it.

and you don't need evidence because you're Jesus

[–]Musky 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm sure you can find proof that peer pressure can be an effective tool. Call out black men for their violence, call them out for abandoning children, make it ostracized.

The black people I've spoken to on Twitter are for it, you shouldn't be playing slave master.