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JK Rowling hate law posts not criminal, police say(bbc.com)

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thomastheglassexpert 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

It's an interesting factoid that the sexually perverted/demented have in recent years demanded that all pretend with them and affirm their psychosis as if it's real and true and fact = "trans women ARE women" is the mantra I've read of. To that I call flat out bullshit and if a person wants to be known as a certain "thing" then go right ahead. Makes no diff to me. But demand I play along = fuck RIGHT off as the Brits and Kiwi say. Right off and go stick your head in a used filled up toilet. YOU want to be something you are clearly not I don';t care. But demand that I play along and affirm your fuckery = nope. I won't.

AriShekelsteinDDS 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

That’s the thing, though. For most of them it’s a fetish, a social power play, or a mix of both. Forcing others to play along is a big part of it.

Jiminy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

They say it riled up violence against them. But if someone sees a jk Rowling tweet and it makes them decide to kill a trans person, that killer is guilty and we already have laws against murder.

PsychoTranyRedditMod 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun 1 month ago

It's more likely a redditard would go postal over someone saying they didn't hate jk rowling.

alladd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

"Stochastic terrorism" is retarded. It's like blaming video games for school shootings. Ultimately all you're doing is sparing the perpetrator of a murder some percentage of the blame.

OuroborosTheory 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

I mean right here on TIA we've seen a Gentle Suggestion to go to a cafe or something before meeting a trans friend and practice using their pronouns: they don't just want compliance, they want your THOUGHTS

ClassroomPast6178 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

I suspect that the law will be unenforceable with regard to trans.

However, I doubt anyone complaining about the law will stand up for someone who gets arrested for being racist. I suspect that had the trans stuff not been in the law then the likes of JKR would have been quite happy with it.

Lots of talk about freedom of speech, but I’ve seen the same people calling for an anti-misogyny law with the same provisions.

Jiminy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

Doubt all you want but they have no 1st amendment there

ClassroomPast6178 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

It’s not about that, it’s about the fact that a lot of the people complaining about the law are only doing so because it touched on their pet cause (troonery) but they were very silent when Count Dankula was being prosecuted for his Nazi Pug joke (under a different law regarding electronic communications).

There are people, like Andrew Doyle and Konstantin Kissin, who are talking about actual freedom of speech, but too many including JKR, would be silent if someone was being prosecuted for calling Muslims hurty names.

Jiminy 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun 1 month ago

jk Rowling, who is obviously a man, is just helping Scotland test the law and see if people will support it. Count dankula was not the same.

It's funny how most people reported the prime minister for breaking this law, because he said racist things about white people and tried to stir up violence against them.

wylanderuk 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun 1 month ago

It's funny how most people reported the prime minister for breaking this law, because he said racist things about white people and tried to stir up violence against them.

Its even funnier when you find out he had the highest number of reports against him.

xoenix[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

To be fair, I think JKR's success is partly due to staying focused on the issue of preserving women's rights from troons. I don't have a problem with her sticking with that objective, and it's not only about speech.

If she flip-flops on the hatespeech laws in other cases then I'll lose respect for her.

wylanderuk 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

Like I have said the SNP will kiss the ass of feminists just as much...re the "anti-misogyny law" was supposed to the usual neutrally written ie based on sex so it would cover misandry as well (yeah it would probably never be applied that way, but it was supposed to cover it as well), but then feminists had a shit fit about potentially been held to the same standard as everybody else.

CheeseWizard 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun 1 month ago

Challenge, level: impossible, lawmakers try to go 5 minutes without making stupid laws

Erasmus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

Disgusting. Even worse than a bad law is a bad law only enforced selectively as it benefits the system. Normal folk still have no protection from the prosecutor's whim.

ClassroomPast6178 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

The Scottish government under the SNP have a bit of a history of making poorly formed laws or laws that do nothing or make things worse (like the minimum pricing for alcohol).

Jiminy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

They like having laws that they can enforce if they want. They may not want to enforce it on jk Rowling but they have the Law in their back pocket it halt speech if they want

AriShekelsteinDDS 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

It’s not about what was said or done. It’s about who said or did it. That’s how these kinds of laws are actually enforced.

xoenix[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

A paper printed her thread from the other day. 😂

Also this.

weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

A paper printed her thread JPG from the other day. 😂

Do you know what paper that was?

NastyWetSmear 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

It'd be interesting to see these types of laws created without the hypocrisy and see just how tenable they are. Once the public understood the damage done by a law that forbids you from insulting someone... Something utterly arbitrary and totally dependent on the mood and whim of someone around you and not the intent or action of the "Offender", and totally unable to be proven in a court of law... We could maybe put such stupid concepts behind us for a few years.

Musky༼⁠ ⁠つ⁠ ⁠◕⁠‿⁠◕⁠ ⁠༽⁠つ 🐈 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

Like the Patriot Act? That's still law. I would never bank on getting a shitty law repealed due to the will of the people.

NastyWetSmear 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

No, I think the Patriot Act is enforceable, as it doesn't even require a victim, an accusation or a proper police investigation. This is more like if the Patriot Act required someone to claim you were a terrorist because you refused to hold the door open for them and that made them feel mortal dread.

HugodeCrevellier 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

So, not only can a man pass himself off as a woman, legally so,
but it's instead someone that reveals the lie/subterfuge that must fear prosecution,
creating thus societies where telling the truth is (so far only almost) a criminal act,
but lying is fine, if not encouraged.

Alienhunter糞大名 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

If they actually arrested her it would generate a fuck ton of backlash.